Hmmm, I wonder if someone on AOL could see if the HAM Radio Club still has an Apple II file area. I know they used to have quite a few Apple II programs. I believe the keyword was HAM. GEnie might also have some helpful files. Speaking of HAM radio, some have found Ground Track, my artificial satellite tracking program, useful. Look for v3.01 on GEnie, CIS, CalTech, Grind, etc. Have fun! John