Re: ProDOS, OS X and Netatalk

[Polymorph <mike.a.stephens@gmail.com>]

On Jan 26, 7:56 pm, pitz <pitz.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 25, 3:35 pm, Steven Hirsch <snhir...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > pitz wrote:
> > >> It may be the bridges performing the Phase 1 to Phase 2 translation.
> > >> The Sonic Systems bridge that I tried may not be doing that.   I'll
> > >> test with a Gatorbox or the other routers I have.
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> > > Testing with an AppleTalk "router" (an EtherRouteTCP/II) instead of a
> > > "bridge" type of adapter allowed me to see the Kubuntu box from the
> > > IIgs.
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> > > Searching the net for info, it looks like the IIgs uses AppleTalk
> > > Phase 1.  A bridge would pass it through EtherTalk, but Phase 1 is not
> > > recognized by Linux (at least as mentioned in some old docs at
> > >http://www.anders.com/projects/netatalk/old/atalkd.conf.htmlandalso
> > > in Linux's ddp.c source).  Using a router that has Phase 1 on its
> > > LocalTalk segment, and Phase 2 on its EtherTalk segment seems to
> > > provide the necessary translation.
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> > Great!  I think that answers the question.  I was unaware that the Gatorbox
> > was actually converting Phase 1 --> Phase 2!  I thought the only difference
> > was the range of addresses permitted.
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> > > Out-of-the-box, the randnum UAMS is not enabled so I still wasn't able
> > > to login to the Linux box.  I have to check if it can be enabled
> > > through config or if a recompile of netatalk is needed.
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> > That's correct.  It's very easy to rectify the situation, though.  Please see
> > my earlier posting for complete details.  Do not hesitate to contact me in
> > private e-mail if you need any help getting that going!
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> > > The Farallon adapters (which I don't have) probably have the same
> > > limitations as the Sonic Systems bridge that I tested with.
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> > I believe that the Mac Localtalk / Ethertalk bridge application does a similar
> > conversion.  I had suggested to Tony that he give that a try.
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> > Steve
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> Turned out that I really didn't need a secure authentication, so I
> just used Marsha's patched AppleShare CDEV to use the cleartxt UAM
> (cleartxt and DHX2 came as defaults in the netatalk package grabbed by
> Kubuntu).  AFP shares were easily mountable into the IIgs Finder.
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> Since I was testing AppleTalk/AppleShare anyway, I fired up the old
> Windows 2000 Server with the AppleTalk protocol add-in and the IIgs
> can mount the shares there too.  This worked with either the
> EtherRouteTCP/II router or the Sonic Systems bridge.  Apparently,
> Windows' AppleTalk add-in can understand EtherTalk Phase 1.  I think
> Windows 2003 Server was the last version that supported the AppleTalk
> add-in (it isn't present on the Win7 install disc).

Sorry for chiming in so late, but I remembered a thread from a couple
of years ago in which a guy got an AsanteTalk working with Netatalk:
http://groups.google.com.au/group/comp.sys.apple2/browse_frm/thread/1c748fa1032249be

Do any of the suggestions there help out?

I would have thought that an AsanteTalk would be in the same class as
the Farallon and Sonic AppleTalk bridges?

I've not tried any of the suggestions within that thread, but I
thought I'd bring it to your attention on the off chance that it
provides a solution.

Cheers,
Mike