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Re: Apple I to show up on ebay...



larwe ha scritto:
On Sep 17, 9:50 am, "dott.Piergiorgio"
<dott.PiergiorgioNI...@KAIGUN.fastwebnet.it> wrote:

agree on all points, but save the chip markings: I think that looking
the die size under the hood of an (allegedly) genuine and *working*
machine means also destroying the chip, and replacing it reduces the
value of the machine, if really genuine....

That's one of the reasons I mentioned EPROMs - they don't require
opening.

Deleting the prod number and writing an earlier, fake prod number (and
same treatment to the other anachronistic markings on the chip) is
relatively easy, I fear...

It's relatively easy, if you have the equipment. But it is hard to
reproduce the original texture on the device (fakers often get it
wrong), and it is often quite noticeable when the top and bottom of
the device do not match in texture. Come to think of it, I would not
be surprised if it is possible to check the composition of the resin.
I would suspect the formulas vary from decade to decade, and the
effects of aging might be detectable also.

mmm.... here I can agree; indeed in my Grandfather's field, a chemical/radiocarbon test of paint or canvas is really the extreme measure used only in really complex and high-profile appraisal/authenticity issue, let's say a century-lost Caravaggio or Tiziano whose suddenly reappear and the genuinity is a *real* issue, but even a prototype computer isn't so irreplaceable (hope no culture clash, but in my eyes Renaissance & Baroque masterpieces *are* the top of uniqueness) and a little chipping of the chip isn't an great issue (again in my very IMO...)

Frankly I think anyone except a professional museum owner who would
spend $10k or more on a "rare" prototype on eBay is out of his mind.
And if I was such a person, I would have an inspection X-ray machine -
they don't cost terribly much (relatively speaking - you could pick
one up for $20k, or borrow access to one for much less).

meh... on professional computer preservation, the CISRAC (as one can infer fron the last two letters, is the *only* surviving 1950s one-of-kind first-generation dino) is in perfect, bootable conditions, but is out of question attempting a power-on, because of the too many unique and irreplaceable original components...

Best regards from Italy,
Dott. Piergiorgio.