Re: >Think before flaming.

[jamesb@ecst.csuchico.edu (James L. Brookes)]

In article <1993Feb27.131247.22031@ifi.unizh.ch> gudat@avalon.physik.unizh.ch
(gudat henrik) writes:

>I personally DON'T like talking about other persons when they can't
>join the discussion. You all should take the whole stuff to e-mail.
> 
>But now you have posted it - so here's my answer.

Fair enough.

>I believe you got a funny idea of Olivier. Did you know that the FTA
>cooperated DAMN closely with Toolbox? And who Toolbox was , what they
>did and what they didn't do at all, that's clear, isn't it? So it's
>very, very, very difficult for me to believe that Olivier did never
>receive money (I mean larger amounts) for his work.

Did you know that the FTA got royally screwed over by Toolbox? (heh, like
some other people I could mention, ne?).  They barely got anything for
their software.  This is directly (in person) from Oliver, Dominique, Deny
and Pierre when they came to the States.  I've heard of what Toolbox 
(and SOS later on) did, but as far as I know Oliver was uninvolved.

>I find it extremely disgusting (to use the words of one flamer) how
>aggressively people act sometimes on InterNet. You should never forget
>what's the idea behind the InterNet. This doesn't mean you have to post

The idea behind the Internet, or more accurately Usenet in general, is that
you can say what you want.  

>ten times a day "I love you all", but there are ways to disagree _and_
>be kind at the same time. Try it, it's great...

Henrick, there are only a few ways to tell someone you vehemently disagree
with something they say, and all of them are 'nasty'.

>[BTW: I don't think the current discussion will ever produce useful
>results, so what about stopping it????]

I think you're basically right, so let me summarize my feelings.

I, personally, think that Joe Kohn has done many very good things for the
Apple //, and the //gs in specific.  His columns in inCider are what I
read the mag for nowadays, and that's about it.  Well, that and the ads :)

However, to make the claim "have possably promoted the Apple // more than
anyone else" is sheer hubris.  No ifs, ands, or buts.

And to go back to the spark that initially ignited this thread, I _still_
find it distasteful (<- less harsh:) that someone in Joe's position would
barter what is essentially free software.  I personally have a copy of
Oil Landers, but I didn't want to upload it because I'd thought it would
be used in a future inCider contest, as Bouncin 'Ferno was.

Now I'm not so sure.

>henrik
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