On Apr 26, 2:36 am, "Russg" <russg...@MUNGEsbcglobal.net> wrote: > > .4 kb/s ? That's 400 bytes /sec or about 4000 bits/sec? Yes. As Ensor says it's hideous. It's more like a tape recorder without the need to spool to the sections to load from. Without a fast loader you can literally *see* the bytes being transfered. *With* a fastloader the thing is quite usable. bye Marcus