Re: Aztec C

[Bill Buckels <bbuckels@escape.ca>]

On Mar 24, 1:26 pm, "BluPhoenyx" <bluphoe...@a2central.com.remove-vee-
this> wrote:

> I think your method will work better for me. I tend to program mostly on
> the real hardware and sometimes emulation but tend to use the PC for
> reference and documentation research etc.

The only problem that this presents of course is that the text in this
manual is initially smaller in high resolution than most would like to
see in a web browser, and to those folks try a zoom factor suitable
for old eyes like mine:)

For anyone who doesn't follow this part of the discussion, and Mike
can correct me if I'm wrong, but Mike originally prepared this manual
as unix style manpages and this is an excerpt from his README:

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This is the manual for the Manx Aztec C System for ProDOS on
Apple //'s :

This software was released as (c) freeware by Phade Software Dec-1999

These are the original instructions, some of the work has already been
finished for you. Specifically, the archive has been unpacked from the
Phade archive. Under the MAN folder is the text file directories as
mentioned below. Feel free to store the MAN folder wherever you want
as long as you point the MANPATH environment variable.

If you are using the AZTEC PLUS release you should use this reference
instead of the one supplied. There may be text in the old version that
you will want to keep. It is left as a project of the user to
incorporate the old text into the new MAN.

Again, thanks to Phade for releasing this software and taking the time
to answer my e-mail.

Phoenyx

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Here's the links for the html version and I probably should have
credited Mike with doing the work of chasing this down in the first
place which I will correct as time permits:

http://www.clipshop.ca/Aztec/cat1.htm
http://www.clipshop.ca/Aztec/cat2.htm

> > I have Harry Suckow's phone etc. He is still in Freehold, NJ. I talked
> > to Carl Sassenrath and know where Jim Goodnow is too. Thomas Fenwick
> > may still be at Microsoft. He may also have gone underground after he
> > directed the devlopement of WIndows CE. As far asw Mike Spille goes, I
> > haven't talked to him since the early 90's and he is probably still
> > living in Greenwich Village or may have moved upstate for all I know.
> > I want to finish the site off before I ask Harry the question. The use
> > is still fair especially under the Berne Convention 3 test clause
> > which is what we Canadians go by, but I want their help in getting all
> > the versions of everything, so I need to make a better effort than I
> > have so far.
>
> Good luck with that. At this point any acknowledgment would be great.
>

I know what you are saying. Something happened there I think way back
when, and I have been told that Goodnow is not so much into the past,
and I have no idea how all this will eventually turn-out. Goodnow
seems to have many patents out there and Fenwick's involvement with
Microsoft's embedded technology is also of curiosity to me.

Catch my wikipedia article on Aztec-C and my additions to the article
on Cross-Compilers and then stand back for a moment and wonder what
really happened...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztec-C
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-compiler

Much of my research on all of this was encouraged by another Aztec-C
user by the name of John Bridges who among other things wrote PCPaint
which was the first Paintbrush Program for the PC...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCPaint

I did a bunch of articles about Bridges on Wikipedia and they are
worth a look-see too. John was onto me a couple of days ago about
chasing down these copyrights and in a perfect world the whole Aztec-C
product line would be released into the public domain.

Anyway, Mike you really need to read through the helpfile for my
ClipShop program for a chucnk of the Copyright history stuff if you
get a chance:

http://www.clipshop.ca/index.htm

> Sorry, that was not a shot at you but just a mention. There have been
> some very nasty wars in the past regarding copyrights and all that
> stuff. Personally, I'm thankful for what you have released as there is
> very little C code available for the II systems.
>
> Cheers,
> Mike T.
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Ok so I was wrong for the first time in my life:) again...

Personally I was overjoyed when I saw this last remark of yours and at
this point if I had the time I would put-up every shred of Apple II C
code that I ever wrote.. but alas even I have lost much of that.
Fortunately I saved a whole load of it too and you can bet given time
it will be given over for folks to use if they care to.

If John Bridges could get at his Apple stuff that would probably be up
as well. That's another story for another day...

Well it's been a slice but dinner's on and I need to run.

Later,

Bill