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Re: A2Central down



winson19842005 wrote:


On 6/19/07 1:13 PM, in article
1182273202.209100.267170@c77g2000hse.googlegroups.com, "a2fan@hotmail.com"
<a2fan@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Jun 19, 8:21 am, Steven Lichter <diespamm...@ikillspammers.com>
wrote:

The chances of a failure like he is having are very small because of so
many backups.  The problem has to be something external; I have spent 40
years with the phone company, Not AT&T and all of those in Network
Operations.
I'm just a user, but I'm professionally responsible for nearly a dozen
locations in Kansas, Missouri, Nebraska (and for awhile, Texas). They
all have broadband of some kind, but most use SBC DSL for cheap VPN
access back to the home branch.

Based on my 5 year experience with them (SBC, now AT&T) since we
started using their DSL, we've seen plenty of problems... like last
year, SBC lost half their ring in the Kansas City area and EVERYONES
service was horrible for about 3 weeks. They had a hard time finding
why and where the ring died (2 days) and then they found out they
didn't have the right gear to switch out - which took another 1.5
weeks to ship, and just under that to install. We had to fall back on
dialup to our locations. I spent a lot of time with the NOC then...
wow.

And then there was the time last year in Springfield MO that an AB
card went on the blink just enough to not really work, but passed
local diagnostics. I knew the trouble was at the rback, but... they
spent a lot of time on site, swapped the modem 3 times, ripped and
replaced gear at the RT at least twice, swapped pairs on the AB...
finally, I talked them into replacing that card at the CO and ...
presto, all was well. Got a interview offer out of that, but turned it
down. =)

Looking at my service logs, I'm averaging almost 3 SBC outages a year
per site. Only my Comcast sites are worse, and QWest before them was
by far the least reliable.

So, yah they have backups at the NOCs, the backbone and maybe even to
the CO in urban areas... but I doubt there is that much redundancy
where A2C's server is at -- Paola, KS. We're too rural.


We are rural too. Small community in South Georgia. Our hospital (and area)
has lost all internet about 4 times this year, for 12-36 hours at a time.

All due to AT&T "fiber cuts" in Atlanta. Atlanta<>rural. So much for
re-routing traffic. Even after they "fix" the problem, there are always
"issues" for them to work through.

We have two different internet providers, both Mediacom and Mckesson.
Doesn't help during something like this.

You'd think they'd put up a warning sign "DON'T CUT HERE"! ;)

Funny, this, as at the same time, I'll be at home surfing the internet on
BellSouth (now AT&T) DSL.

The do have very large bright orange signs waring of Fiber, we had a cut in our area and the company that did it went bust, it cost them and their insurance company almost 2 million dollars, yet the system back up for the rings worked fine. I worked for GTE/Verizon and in FIOS areas there are rings right into the homes.

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