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Re: What specs would your Apple ][ clone have today?



sicklittlemonkey wrote:
On Mar 31, 7:29 pm, "biel...@terra.es" <biel...@terra.es> wrote:

I think that BBC's Basic is a marvelous gem : <http://www.bbcbasic.co.uk>,
and the BBC computers themselves too.
The Apple II stands quite well compared to the BBC's 6502 computers,
unlike this Micro-Soft's (P.O.C.) Applesoft thing that made its way
into it... :-(

(AppleSoft predates BBC's Basic by several years, though)


BBC Basic is certainly more powerful than Applesoft, but the base BBC
is also more powerful than the base Apple II. (2Mhz CPU, Mockingboard-
like sound chip etc.) Perhaps this was because it was later to market
(1981) - though the //e certainly wasn't a competitive offering in
1983. The only real hardware addition was double-hires, with no
Applesoft support for it.

A couple of points to consider...

Applesoft is a 10KB interpreter, while BBC BASIC appears to be 16KB--
which allows for a considerable increase in functionality.

The //e was not a clean-slate design of a contemporary competitive
machine.  It was a minimally-incompatible "enhancement" to a proven
design with tens of thousands of programs extant.  From Apple's
point of view, it was actually a cost reduction re-design using
more modern technology to do essentially the same job while
canonizing certain expansion features and interfaces.

Adding major functionality, or even speeding it up, would have
been a *much* more difficult undertaking, and would have risked a
compatibility (or at least a culture) "disconnect" with the existing
Apple II world (as I believe the later IIgs demonstrates).

Apple has been much criticized in the II world for abandoning the
II line to focus on the Mac.  But if the choice is staying with your
(past) customers or staying with (even leading) the market with a new
competitive-technology platform, then I think we can all agree what
must be done from a business perspective.

I think that Apple was unusually supportive of an "old" platform--
look at the production schedule and new peripheral introductions
for the II line far past its actual competitiveness as a platform.
Most companies show much less reticence about leaving their early
adopters behind as they pursue the mass market.  I attribute this
long-tailed support for the II line as a mixture of sentimentality
within the company for the II and the _esprit de corps_ of the
dwindling II team.

-michael

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