Re: apple IIc color monitor

["mdj" <mdj.mdj@gmail.com>]

On Feb 7, 12:03 am, Tristan Mumford <xtristan.xmumf...@xgmail.xcom>
wrote:
> mdj wrote:
> > On Feb 6, 9:34 pm, Tristan Mumford <xtristan.xmumf...@xgmail.xcom>
> > wrote:
>
> >> Interesting. makes me wonder where that leaves my platinum IIe. It has a
> >> board which apparently looks like a PAL board according to descriptions
> >> I've read yet it says NTSC screenprinted onto the board. It also has the
> >> US/UK charactersets and the switch underneath the keyboard to toggle
> >> them.
>
> > The platinum IIe outputs 50hz NTSC on the European/Australian models,
> > as does the IIc.
>
> As I more or less said below which you probably wouldn't have read yet I
> would have been happy enough to have a bodgey PAL with calibration pot.

At least with the European/Australian pre-platinum IIe, you can use
the Extended 80-column card which has a 'fair dinkum' PAL output on
board. The motherboard PAL on these machines is downright awful, and
the colours are actually wrong.

While these cards produce excellent video, they're useless to me since
I need a high-capacity RAM card installed in the Auxiliary slot.

> Thankfully I have a couple of the IIe monitors. Only one works properly
> though. IIRC the other one has a severe concave screen problem. I haven't
> powered it on in over a decade.

They're the best option for most people. I personally prefer to use
RGB output, and a monitor that has both RGB and composite inputs (A
recent television with SCART or component inputs will suffice). 99% of
the time I'm in RGB mode as it produces the clearest image. The other
1% is while I'm gaming, in which case most of the graphics are
designed to look best on composite video.

> My partner has a Konka 34cm TV that seems to handle anything I can throw at
> it. Maybe one day I should see if the IIe works with it in colour.
>
>
>
> > This annoyed me sufficiently that several years ago I bought a US
> > motherboard for my 'production' IIe. I have been much happier since.
>
> Yeah, it's kind of been an issue with me too.
> I wondered whether it were possible to either hack up a Poor-Man's-PAL
> setup, or change the clocking to 60Hz.

You can probably 60Hzify a IIe be swapping the IOU and main crystal
from a US system, but personally, since someone would have to
lobotomise a motherboard to give you these parts, it's better to just
swap the whole mainboard. There are other advantages to doing this,
and only one disadvantage.

> > If you installed a mouse card in slot 7 on a IIe, you qualify as
> > wierd ;-)
>
> ...oh yeah. Oops. yeah that's not in slot 7. It's just mine has the 2xSSC2
> cards, mouse card etc.
> Mind you, odd thing. When I plopped the clone ][ floppy controller in there
> for testing it overrode the 'proper' controller's role as default.

Don't follow you here...

Matt