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Re: Focus Drive //e woes



Michael J. Mahon <mjmahon@aol.com> wrote:
> William Katz wrote:
>> Jerry <SNIPawanderin@yahosnipo.ca> wrote:
>> 
>>>Michael J. Mahon wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>William Katz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have also *not* tried to put the hard
>>>>>drive in an ibm computer and see if any disk checking utilities would fix
>>>>>it?
>>>>
>>>>That wouldn't help, since PC utilities only "fix" disks with PC
>>>>formatting.  It would be a way to do a low-level format, but that
>>>>is almost certainly not the problem.
>>>
>>>If you buy the SpinRite program from Steve Gibson (http://grc.com/), it can
>>>fix a somewhat damaged hard drive.  It runs on a PC, but does not care what
>>>the high-level filesystem information is, as it talks to the drive
>>>controller and does its work that way.  I have used this software to repair
>>>drives that seemed completely gone and was delighted to have the data back.
>>>
>>>Jerry
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks guys for your replies.  I tried re-seating the card in slot 7, as 
>> well as re-seating the hard drive itself on the Focus Card.
>> I also tried getting Prosel to fix it.
>> 
>> So far nothing worked yet.
>> 
>> I plan on trying SpinRite 6.0 on the hard drive, but I have to get a 2 
>> 1/2" to 3 1/2" ide hard drive converter in order to connect it to one of 
>> my desktop computers.  It seems like ebay has hundreds of them I can get.
>> 
>> Also, does anyone know if Alltech (Computer Circulation Center) still 
>> sells these?  I actually bought the Focus Drive //e from them back in July 
>> of 2001.  Maybe I can call them for support?
>> 
>> Anyway, if SpinRite does not fix the drive, I might 'fdisk' it to blank 
>> out any partition information on it.  If I fdisk the drive, and put it 
>> back in my //e, will I be able to format it okay??
> 
> I'd first try re-writing the partition table that the Focus uses.
> It's one block that, if clobbered, prevents any partition from
> mounting--and it can be fixed.

Well, I tried all 5 levels of SpinRite 6.0 on the drive, and it did not 
seem to fix the booting problem.

In fact, it showed data fly by in one of the screens as it was checking 
the drive, so all the data is in tact.

When starting SpinRite 6.0 (at the boot screen, before the Splash Screen) 
it shows this:

 - InitDiskillegal partition table - drive 00 sector 0
illegal partition table - drive 00 sector 0
illegal partition table - drive 00 sector 0
illegal partition table - drive 00 sector 0

I guess something with the boot sector got mangled somehow??


> If you do succeed in attaching it to a PC, it would be interesting
> to open it as a device with CiderPress, which accomodates a variety
> of partition table formats.  Perhaps it would allow an easy capture
> of the device's contents.
> 
>> If I remember, I think ProDOS 8 supports up to 32MB per 'partition' and I 
>> had 5 or 6 partitions on the drive (s7,d1 s7,d2 s1,d1 s1,d2 s4,d1 and 
>> s4,d2 I think were the partitions)
>> I assume ShrinkIt, or Filer, or any of the ProDOS utility programs will be 
>> able to format it just fine?

Okay, I can not belive it!!!!
After attaching the drive (ibm dha-2270) to my PC, it recognized it in the 
bios, and I booted into Windows XP.  I downloaded CiderPress v2.4.5 and 
OMG!!  It recognized the physical drive as being a FocusDrive and read in 
all 6 Focus partitions!  Turns out I don't have any data on partitions 3, 
4, 5, or 6.. but still, I can retrieve all the data from the drive!!

I have not played around with CiderPress that much last night, but what I 
would like to do is "image" the entire FocusDrive to a file, then 'fdisk' 
the ibm dha-2270 (the FocusDrive)... then can i re-image back to the 
drive? Maybe that will fix the boot sector problem?

Right now I am just happy to get the data back : )

hmm, maybe CiderPress can partition that physical ibm dha-2270 170mb drive 
in 'Focus' format? and partition it accordingly?


> Once it is partitioned, any ProDOS formatting program will do the job,
> but consider for a moment--what, short of a catastrophe, could have
> destroyed more than a few blocks on this drive?  Odds are, all your
> data is recoverable.
> 
> -michael
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William D. Katz "a good skier"

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