Mark McDougall wrote: > Don't be afraid to melt the tip of the sucker - they're quite cheap! Most parts you're trying to remove cost *more* than the sucker! I tend to use it while the iron is still touching the joint! Regards, -- Mark McDougall, Engineer Virtual Logic Pty Ltd, <http://www.vl.com.au> 21-25 King St, Rockdale, 2216 Ph: +612-9599-3255 Fax: +612-9599-3266