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Re: A2Central News
In article <apple22-B0D016.15384715092006@news-rdr-03.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
Greg Buchner <apple22@mn.rr.com> wrote:
> In article <eeeh5c$1rv5$1@merope.saaf.se>,
> pausch@saaf.se (Paul Schlyter) wrote:
>
>> In article <apple22-699D53.09270615092006@news-rdr-03.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
>> Greg Buchner <apple22@mn.rr.com> wrote:
>>>In article <eLudnUzmSa_yaZXYnZ2dnUVZ_qWdnZ2d@bresnan.com>,
>>> "Terry Olsen" <tolsen64@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am also a Windows user
>>>> and I'm okay with that. When I develop an application, I'd like to see it
>>>> ported to other platforms, to give even more people the benifit of using
>>>> it.
>>>
>>>It's good to see that you'd like to see apps ported to other platforms.
>>>
>>>> When a Mac user develops an application, the attitude is "It'll be
>>>> ported to Windows over my dead body."
>>>
>>>Do you not realize that there's loads of Windows programmers who are the
>>>exact same way about Macs? Even when there's a programmer willing to
>>>sign any type of agreement and do the program on his own time.
>>>
>>>Maybe us Mac users tend to be like that because there's a goodly portion
>>>of the Windows world tends to dump on us...
>>
>> .....and maybe Windows users tend to be like that because there's an
>> overwhelmingly portion of the Mac world tend to dump on them.....
>>
>> That's what happen when people makes a particular computing environment
>> their religion instead of their tool.....
>
> Overwhelming? Not from my experience. A very vocal minority, yes.
Didn't you see the "1984 commercial", by Apple Computer? If not, you
can see it here:
http://www.askbjoernhansen.com/2005/01/24/mac_1984.html
That commercial formed the spirit of a lot of Mac followers: to
them, other computers became comparable to an Orwellian totalitarian
society, and only a Mac could save you from that.
There were even conflicts within Apple Computer itself, between
the Mac developer teams and the Apple II developer teams - probably
this contributed to killing the Apple II .....
Btw, true Mac devotees must have a hard time now: many years ago,
Apple abandoned the GCR diskette format on the Mac and went for MFM
like everyone else. Apple also scrapped the SCSI harddisks for IDE
harddisks. They added USB ports and not only Firewire. And now,
Apple made the big switch to CPU's from "the big satan" Intel..... :-)
> I use Macs, almost solely for my computing experience. Only other stuff
> is Apple II's. But I don't have a problem with people using Windows
> machines. I've recommended them at times. To me, the Mac isn't a
> religion, it's just the best computing fit for me.
Well, you aren't a true Mac devotee, since you also use Apple II's... :-)
(that's meant as a compliment, not as critiscism)
> Of all the Mac users
> I know, only a couple really get to be that way and it's mostly from
> their exposure to Windows at work.
>
> However, being near an Apple store in a very busy mall, it's amazing
> what you hear from Windows people outside the store. I remember once
> being there and a 20 something guy talking to his 20 something friends
> and wondering what everybody in the store would do if he yelled in "You
> all suck!". I don't know any Mac user who would go that far. (But I'm
> certain there are Mac people who have that opinion...I just don't know
> any.)
>
> So, overwhelming? No, I don't see it.
>
> Greg B.
It's happened to me that I've been considered a brainwashed idiot for
going from the Apple II to the PC rather than to the Mac. This was in
the 1980's -- and these people just couldn't understand why I made
this choice: I wanted to use use my computer for actual computing
(yes, there are still a few of us who do that) rather than drawing
cute cartoon figures on my screen. The PC had, from the very start, a
socket for a numeric coprocessor - you just had to buy the chip and
plug it in. The Mac was much later here: first, Motorola released its
68881 several years after Intel released its 8087. And second, it
took time before a Mac with a coprocessor socket saw the light of day
- and when it did in the Macintosh II, it turned out to be horribly
expensive. At the same time, cheap PC clones were starting to be
available ---- for me the choice was obvious. And like my Apple II+
from 1980 still is in working order (albeit flakey), my first homebuilt
floppy-only PC clone from 1986 is also still in working order (and
somewhat less flakey than my Apple II). I use the same monitor for
both: the monitor from my wife's old Microbee which (except for
the monitor) no longer works.
(note that all this has nothing whatsoever to do with Windows.....
that was a later story)
It might also be interesting to contemplate what Linux people thinks
about the Windows camp or the Mac camp..... they're not very vocal
about it, true, but that doesn't mean they don't have opinions.....
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