Re: Yay! Finally got myself a IIgs!

[et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black)]

"Michael J. Mahon" (mjmahon@aol.com) writes:
> Jorge ChB wrote:
>> Michael J. Mahon <mjmahon@aol.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>>In many ways, the Apple ///
>>>prefigured the monomaniacal obsession that Apple contracted with
>>>the introduction of Jobs other "child", the Mac.
>> 
>> 
>> Jobs' children : 
>> The apple I would have never been sold if it was not because of Jobs ! 
>> The Apple II, whose case look was also (C) Jobs, 
>> then the ///,
>> then the Macs... etc.
>> 
>> 
>>>I think that the Apple /// says most clearly, "I can design
>>>a computer, too, and it's *not* like the *other* Steve's."
>> 
>> 
>> The Apple II, the ///, the Mac... all had no fan / no noise.
>> 
>> What's Jobs fault, that he didn't want to put a fan inside ?
>> What about "the /// engineering team" ?
>> What the hell were they being (well) paid for ?
>> It was possible to fix the ///s afterwards, still without fans !
>> How can it be ?
>> Why was it not well engineered from the beginning ?
>> 
>> (Jobs): "engineers, I want a computer without fans because they make
>> noise and I don't like it"
>> (sometime later)
>> (enginners) : "Jobs, here is you computer, we have engineered it, and it
>> has no fans, as you wanted"
>> (Jobs): "ok, thanks, nice job, take your money"
>> 
>> (a few months later)
>> 
>> All the Apple ///s are failing, because of bad engineering !
>> 
>> IT'S JOBS' FAULT. HE DID NOT WANT TO PUT A FAN. END OF THE STORY.
>> 
>> 
>>>Someday someone will write the history of Apple as the struggle
>>>of an ego with a non-combatant engineer.
>> 
>> 
>> Ego or whatever, Apple would have not even existed if it were not
>> because of Jobs.
> 
> I largely agree with that statement, but I never said anything
> about fans.
> 
> I said that Jobs designed the *case* of the Apple ///, which
> not only didn't have a fan, it barely had air circulation!
> 
> It's a cast metal box with little compartments to put electronics
> in.  Ventilation is a *good* thing.  ;-)  Come to think of it,
> being able to lift a personal computer is also a good thing...
> 
Yes, I remember thinking "that's a neat case" when I saw the ads,
but when I actually saw one inside, there was pretty much no space.
And the spaces for the parts were just barely enough, so if you
wanted to scrap the III and use the nice looking case for something
else, you couldn't because it really was way too specific to the
III.  You could take an Apple II case, even a IIGS case, and put
something else in there, without having to worry about much beyond
basic dimensions.  But if you wanted to use the III case, you had
to start from scratch in order to fit anything in.

  Michael