Re: What was the first Apple computer to have built in audio?

[beavis <nobody@nowhere.com>]

In article
<john.doggett-CEF56F.19300308112005@News-West.newsfeeds.com>, Bible
John <john.doggett@x-files.gov> wrote:

> One says this in response to a post from the apple forums where a user 
> claims to have been able to record audio in 1985 on his mac.

Yes, "a user" was you.

> "Not in 1985, you didn't.  The first Macs with built-in audio input were
> the LC and IIsi, introduced in 1990."

That's me.

> I personally remember recording audio and playing it back way way back 
> during the Apple II days in the 80's. 

Your memory's failing you.  The Apple II (except the GS) could only
play clicks through the speaker, unless you added something like a
Mockingbird card to it.

Your contention was that a Mac did audio sampling in 1985.  But in your
question, you've now changed your scope (now you say all Apple
computers), and removed the word "input."  Fine.  I'll assume by
"audio" you mean more than clicks and beeps.

To answer your NEW question, the first Apple computer with built-in
sampled audio *output* was the original Macintosh, introduced in 1984.

The Apple IIgs, introduced in 1986, was the first Apple II to provide
sampled sound and music, with an Ensoniq DOC on board, and was a much
better system than what the Mac had.  It wasn't added to later models
for reasons relating to the lawsuit with Apple Records.

None of the above machines could *input* audio without additional
sampling hardware.

The first Apple computer with built-in sound *input* was the Mac IIsi,
released in October of 1990 right along with the LC.

Which I believe is what I said in the first place.