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Re: Apple IIgs Crashed
- Subject: Re: Apple IIgs Crashed
- From: Rubywand <rubywand@swbell.net>
- Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 17:22:55 GMT
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
- Organization: SBC http://yahoo.sbc.com
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Bryan Parkoff writes ...
>
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> My power supply is Vulcan. It has two 2 GB hard drives inside Vulcan
> power supply with Turbo IDE card which it was modified by myself. I believe
> that two hard drives may have stolen too much power which it causes not to
> give enough power to the Apple IIgs' motherboard.
> I have found naked 3" X 5" power supply board from any electronic store
> which it has same +/-5V and +/-12V. It can replace the half defective power
> supply board inside Vulcan unit.
One check is to turn ON your computer, let it sit a minute or so, and
measure the +5V voltage on the motherboard.
You can clip the black (gnd/-) meter lead to some Gnd place and sample +5V
with the red (+) meter lead at a +5V point on the motherboard-- like pin 16 of
some 16-pin 74xxx IC, etc.. Try to check at two or three different points on
the motherboard.
If the Voltage is less than 4.75V you very likely have a PS problem.
You can check the +12V output at the Fan connector near the back middle of
the motherboard. If it's low that would be another indicator of a PS problem.
> I can't be certain how much maximum AMPs are required to sustain enough
> power.
Here is info on the standard IIgs PS and PS connector ...
7 - 5 Volts 0.25 Amps
6 -12 Volts 0.25 Amps
5 +12 Volts 1.0 Amps
4 + 5 Volts 4.0 Amps
3 --nc--
2 GND
*1 GND
* When you are sitting in front of the computer, pin 1 is nearest you.
It turns out the the standard IIgs PS with the original leads cannot be
counted on for much more that 2.5 Amps on the +5V output, at least not for very
long. Loading down the standard unmodified PS with an accelerator, SCSI
interface, extra RAM, IDE interface, internal hard disks, ... eventually leads
to PS failure.
I do not know what the Vulcan PS specs are. Probably it offers 1.5A or
better on the +12V output in order to run the Vulcan drives plus take care of
IIgs requirements.
If you replace the Vulcan PS, go for 5-8 Amps on the +5V output and 1.5-2
Amps on the +12V output. Most likely the main problem will be finding a
4-voltage PS that will fit in the Vulcan case while also meeting cooling
requirements. Most replacement PS's will probably do fine with the airflow
supplied by a SystemSaver IIgs.
> If it does not resolve the problem, I would have to use standard power
> supply and put two hard drives externally to the Turbo IDE card. I may be
> required to replace thin wire to thick wire inside standard power supply.
....
It may be a lot less bother to move the Vulcan outside and install a
replacement PS in the IIgs. The PS in the Vulcan may work okay for just running
the Vulcan.
Rubywand