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Re: Strange idea... Cleanrooming the ][+ monitor?
josephoswaldgg@hotmail.com wrote:
This may be trickier than you think, depending on how compatible you
wish to be; as I recall, for instance, a number of programs used the
disassembly routines & tables in the monitor. My impression of this
code is that it was carefully hand-crafted by Woz himself; it will take
a long time for some one to independently rediscover his tricks, I
imagine. He was a really clever guy.
Heh, I know.
From your description of simiie.zip, it sounds like an Applesoft
clean-room clone. Is it compatible with all the things that use
Applesoft? DOS 3.3, ProDOS BASIC.SYSTEM, Basic compilers, Beagle Bros
Applesoft tools & two-liners?
Just about. It's about as compatible as a Laser 128.
Finally, do you know of a single viable project being held up by the
lack of a clean-room monitor ROM? Seems to me that there are plenty of
left over real Apple IIs of various kinds to satisfy the hard-core
fanatics, the less-hard-core folks are satisfied with emulators & ROM
images downloaded from the net so they can relive Lode Runner whenever
they get the itch, and enough people willing to overlook inconvenient
legalisms to provide images from the former for the latter. Everyone is
happy :-). Unless they can't afford $50 for a system from eBay and have
a highly developed sense of legal scruples.
True. But then again, I've always wanted to not have to resort to
warezoring ROMs just to get an emulator running, and also, I've thought
that, even with a lot of ][s around, the idea of building a ][ from
scratch has always appealed to me.
That said, if you can pull it off, it will be an impressive feat! But
Franklin and others failed even when there was some money to be made
from success, at least as I understand it.
--Joe
I don't think they all failed - wasn't the Laser 128 a popular clone?
Moll.