Re: Apple II's and highspeed access

[tturner@ecn.ab.ca ()]

pilgrimer (pilgrimer@sheppys.service) wrote:
: ...
: > Is it possible to get DSL or some other high speed such as ISDN with a
: > apple II?
[snip]

: You will need either of two peripherals: a LANceGS  ethernet card or an
: older Macintosh.
: With the LANCE, you basically just set it up  a IIgs on Marinetti 2.0 or
: greater.  Then you would use any of the various Internet apps for access.
: The IIgs here can directly speak to your router, or to a hub if you do not
: have a router that can self-switch to 10based T (the Lance is a 10bt NIC).
: The other way is to use Marinetti 3.0 or greater and run the Mac as a bridge
: between Localtalk and Ethernet, and the IIgs using Marinetti 3.0 to access
: TCP/IP via MacIP.

: If you are not familiar with these terms I would suggest referring to either
: the information on www.syndicomm.com on networking (specifically the
: a2central.com articles on the LANceGS), or the articles I have written for
: Digital Civilization/ Call A.P.P.L.E on networking, or both.
:   Also I would suggest reviewing csa2 archives on the subject of networking.
: There have been some excellent write-ups on networking the Apple II (even
: ones I wrote even)  over the years.

and yet the A2 FAQS do not have a specific, separate, section on
Networking the A2 series (2e or 2gs) computers.  Not that I'm qualified to
do one.  I have no skills in that area - just an end-user who'd love to be
able to get his PC's a-talkin' to his Apples; without requiring a Mac
(which I don't have).

Other than an implication in your above info - everthing I've ever seen
either implied that some sort of Mac was imperitive in order to network an
Apple 2 computer to a PC; or actually stated it was a requirement.  Even
the LANce site (at least the last time I looked there) implied that
software needed to be written to potentially allow an Apple 2 to talk
directly to a PC (ie: manipulate files on each, by each) & not by him.

If you've got (or know of) specific info that would allow me to network my
2e and/or 2gs, directly to my current PC network, via (one supposes)
LANce cards & specific A2 software; WITHOUT being forced to use a Mac;
I'd love to read it. (& I'm not anti-Mac - I'll get one, one of these
days, just not in the near future...)  It just feels... `cleaner' (simpler
& possibly more elegant), to just hang them onto my network, without
running them through a (older, more capable, big brother) Mac - as if they
needed `permission' to try something daring.  I know it's silly - but I'm
all for banging my head against a wall, if it's at all possible to do it
the way I'd like to; yet I'm indifferent to doing it if it requires a Mac
or some other, external hardware bridge.  I'm `in' - if it's an internal
card and native software & a LAN cable to my switches; else - maybe one of
these days...

Then, I'd like to try to get my wife's old Amiga 500 to join in, as well!
It's fun tinkering with a home-network (as it's obvious you already
know!!) and adding my old(er) systems would be a blast (though my wife
already thinks I'm nuts and this would just confirm it in her mind...) :-> 

-Tony T.

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