Re: Need info on A2 card

[Exegete <millers@noneofyourbusiness.com>]

Dave Althoff Jr wrote:
> Bill Garber (willy4SPAM6pa@comXcast.net) wrote:
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> : > > I know I've probably asked this before, but if anyone
> : > > has the pinout for the DB25 port connector on a Profile
> : > > interface (Apple II interface) card, I would appreciate it.
> : >
> : > Bill, the profile drive was compatible with the Apple III and Lisa. this
> : is
> : > the spec of the parallel port on the Lisa - taken from
> : > http://www.crazychucks.com/Lisa/GOODTHINGS.PDF pg 141
> : >
> : > Hope this helps
>
> : It might be the same pinout, but this is an interface card with
> : "Apple II Interface" marked right on it. If you can email me
> : with a valid address I'll scan both sides of the card and send
> : the pics to you.
>
> Indeed...the proFile was designed to work with the Apple ///, and I think
> it just plugs into a built-in parallel port on that.  

I would need to move a few things, but I seem to recall that my Profile 
is attached to a card in my ///.

Later, Apple used
> the same drive on the Lisa, but I think you still need an Apple /// to do
> a low-level format on the thing.
>
> Apple did eventually offer an Apple ][ interface card for the proFile, as
> was usually the case with Apple, it was too little, too late, and too
> expensive.  But I have actually seen an Apple ][e running an AppleWorks
> database off of a proFile.

The card came out in the days of the ][Plus - I owned one with a 
Profile. Alas, I was so clueless (it was my first Apple II) that I 
thought it was broken because all the Profile did was blink that stupid 
red light for forever. <Sigh!>
> I suppose that the best way to set up a //e with a proFile would be to use
> a monitor stand, then put a Monitor /// on top of the proFile.  This was
> back in the days when people were using Monitor ///'s for ][e's, 

And ][Pluses!

since the
> Monitor ][ (which is MUCH nicer!  If only because it lacked the cloth
> screen surface!) hadn't been released yet.

Actually, for work, as opposed to play, the Monitor /// is a better 
monitor: that cloth screen cut out glare, and the long persistence 
phosphor made for a more steady text screen. Of course, fast scrolling 
would make your eyes cross!
> So no doubt from me that the card you have is for an Apple ][...in fact,
> the Apple ][ is the only Apple that ever supported the proFile that would
> require the use of a special card!

I don't think you are correct here. Again, I could be wrong.

Roy

> I'm guessing that with much better alternatives than the huge, noisy
> hulking beast of a 5Mb hard drive called a proFile available, you are
> perhaps thinking of using the card for some other bi-directional parallel
> port application?
>
> (Incidentally, it may look like a DB-25 port, but look closer...there are
> only 24 pin locations!)
>
> --Dave Althoff, Jr.



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