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Re: World-wide 8-bit computer sales (all-time)?





Scott Alfter wrote:
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In article <280620030317197960%macsvolume@yahoo.com>,
Max Volume  <macsvolume@yahoo.com> wrote:

In article <gcGdnTcGZLDio2CjXTWJhQ@comcast.com>, Bill Garber
<willy46pa@comcast.net> wrote:

The C-64 couldn't touch the Coleco, because at the price they had only a
VERY poor DMP, and their infamous tape system.

DMP, I believe, is Dot Matrix Printer. ;-)

Right, and the "poor DMP and infamous tape system" sounds like a knock
on Coleco, not Commodore, except that the ADAM printer was a daisywheel
or other form of impact printer, not a dot-matrix.  So how exactly do
those two undesirable features mean the C-64 "couldn't touch" the ADAM?


Yes, the Adam used a daisy-wheel printer.  For cranking out documents in the
era before laser and inkjet printers (afforable ones, anyway), a daisy-wheel
printer would've delivered far superior print quality.  (Not everybody
wasted time with games and demos...some of us did real work with our
computers.)  Dot-matrix printers generally did only a usable job with text,
but had the advantage of being able to do graphics as well as text.

BTW, dot-matrix printers are also impact printers.  (If you want to be
pedantic, laser and inkket printers use smaller dots in a matrix to form
images and text, but "dot-matrix printer" typically refers to a heavy, noisy
beast that uses 9 or 24 small pins poking at a ribbon to put ink on paper.)

IIRC, the Adam also had some sort of high-speed tape drive, not merely a
cassette recorder with nonstandard connectors (what Commodore did to lock
you into paying extra for theirs).  A disk drive would've been better, but
it may have been a bit much to expect one in a computer system that cost
less than $1000.  That's one reason why Apple II and IBM PC systems often
started well over $1000 (over $2000 wasn't uncommon, and that's what you
continued to pay for a decent computer system through the mid-to-late-'90s). They were proof that you get what you pay for.

Dead on the money Scott. An Apple was a far superior machine for the purposes that CR did their comparison, but the Apple and the IBM cost far more than the c. $600 a Coleco was priced at.

Some haven't gotten the point, which you did. An inexpensive home computer that would do light weight word processing, and that was completely bundled for c. $600. CR put together systems based on the CoCo 2, Atari 600XL (later in the year an article covered the 800XL), the C-64, and the Coleco. CR did the comparison because of Coleco's marketing - one box, one price, one complete system. How did the competition stack up. The C-64 was a fine machine, but because of it's poor dmp and software, it came in behind the ADAM and the Atari. That didn't mean the C-64 was junk, or couldn't do other fine things. Nor did it mean that you couldn't get better printers for the C-64. It only meant that you couldn't put together a Commodore badged system for that price that did the job of word processing as nicely as the Atari or the Coleco.

Sheesh, people, if you'd read the posts, like Scott did, you'd not argue about things that are on the table.

Roy


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