Re: Low-level vs. High-level programming (was My First Computer)

[wildstar <wildstar128@hotmail.com>]

salfter@salfter.dyndns.org (Scott Alfter) wrote in
news:ZPqIa.160006$eJ2.41659@fed1read07: 


> Yes...but as has been pointed out elsewhere in this thread, "computer
> language" does not imply "programming language." The set of
> programming languages (C, C++, BASIC, etc.) is a proper subset of the
> set of computer languages.  Markup languages (such as HTML and SGML)
> and scripting languages (such as DOS's batch language) are other
> proper subsets of the set of computer languages.  The intersection of
> any two of these sets is empty. 

I agree. Some scripting languages are very powerful and often are 
mistaken for programming languages. These such languages are Javascript 
and vbscript (and some others as well) are greatly inspired by real 
programming languages like JAVA and Visual BASIC in order to give 
websites interactive power. Like handling data entered by a user. Modern 
HTML allows encapsulation of scripts. A common and very widely used 
script is a Javascript or PERL. 

> It's common knowledge among anybody with any amount of formal
> education in computer science.  (Obtaining an MCSE does not qualify as
> "formal education in computer science.")  You might as well ask for
> proof that the sky is blue. 
> 
 
One should at least acquire an Associates in Microcomputer Programming.

> Since HTML isn't something that you "program," it makes no sense to
> try to hire an "HTML programmer."  They don't exist.
>

They are called website builders or webpage builders. Professionally, 
they are not called programmers but a programmer may become a website 
builder due to taking courses in programming. MCSE is a certification but 
often people get an MCSE but really don't know shit. Why ? They work for 
3 months and save the $300-500 for the certification test and spend alot 
of time reading the preparation books then forget most of it after they 
are done. People like me would get a MCSD. The MCSD is Microsoft's 
Certification for Software Developer. MCSE is Microsoft's Certification 
for System Engineer. They are definitely two different things.
 
> (Why do I have the sneaking suspicion that I've just been trolled?)

I suspect he is a dip shit. He doesn't appear to listen.
I think he needs to realize the difference. Even English is a computer 
language. Remember Zork and LISP. Recalling 4GLs.