Re: Is this true?

[Exegete <millers@noneofyourbusiness.com>]

JWolf6589 wrote:
> And why is it that many in western cultures are so obsessed with materialisim,
> and having the latest and greatest all the time?  

Because we can.
And, because we can, we have more for less.

Whats the point, if it works
> why fix it?  

Tisk, tisk. That IS a Western Value - it's called Puritanism.

> I oppose many western values 

Why should this surprise us? And what does that have to do with Apple IIs?

such as having the latest and greatest of
> everything, and some western values are  not valued in other cultures.  

Well, there's a stroke of brilliance. NOT!

Softare
> companies threaten not to release apps for me, 

Ahhh - I weep for thee, poor baby. Now, weep for those of us for whom 
the Bell tolls, as M$ does release software for us, that works worse 
than what we had.

when I am using an OS only 2
> years old!  Its not like I have a 1989 Mac OS! No I have OS 9.1 for goodness
> sake!  It's not like I cant use X, its that I choose not to use X there is a
> difference.

Well, you have chosen poorly. You have chosen to use an OS that Apple's 
users and developers have been wanting to move away from for more than 7 
years.

> No I have not taken any programming classes, but I have taken computer support
> and other IT classes as well as studied other cultures. 

I think you have a culture growing between your toes.

> Yes people in the computer industry are more concerned about building new
> technologies then they are about supporting their products, 

LOL - what an idiot - they don't get paid for support, they do get paid 
for making new stuff that sells.

or ridding all the
> bugs out of their stuff.   
Oh, well now, they will do that - it's in the next release - it will 
only cost you $89.99 for the upgrade.

I should take that attitude when I write papers.  I
> should be more concerned about writing new papers, when there are plenty of
> errors in my older papers, which I will not fix, because I have a new idea.

I'm afraid your professors are a bit like you - they aren't buying. You 
get an "F."

Roy

> << Subject: Re: Is this true?
> From: "Bryan Villados" news002@macgeek.org 
> Date: Wed, Nov 20, 2002 11:51 PM
> Message-id: <sg0D9.22797$%k2.7095985@twister.socal.rr.com>
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> It's true that it's imposible to install 8.x or earlier on a G4 Power
> Macintosh. So JWolf6589, you made your point. However, "impossible" is not a
> bad thing. Actually, in this scenario, I think it's a GOOD thing. It's a
> sign of innovation. The point Byron was making earlier is not the VARIETY of
> operating systems on the same partition, but rather the ABILITY to do so in
> the first place. So he is correct in his statements.
>
> Here's my rant... If Apple wrote Mac OS X to be downward compatible as far
> back as System 7.1, the OS would be totally bloated, it probably would
> require much more RAM and more hard disk space, would still have the same
> limitations like memory management and such that you're trying to get away
> from in the first place, and we'd be stuck with modem ports, printer ports,
> disk port to support the 20MB hard disk, ADB, the 16-pin port to support my
> Apple II+ joystick, and >ugh< the 3.5-inch micro diskette.
>
> Why are people so hung up on having today's technology running yesterday's
> technology? Sorry for stealing Microsoft's line here, but isn't the goal of
> technology to be innovative? Doesn't innovation require the product to loose
> what was preventing it from being innovative in the first place? This is why
> we still use Apple IIs and other legacy computers today... Some of us do
> this via emulators, others like myself still run the actual hardware. We use
> Apple IIs because it was designed to run things like DOS 3.3 and ProDOS, and
> it does it well. If I want to run Zaxxon, I'll pull out my Apple IIe and run
> Zaxxon. If I want to run PageMaker 4.0, I'll pull out my Mac Color Classic
> that runs System 7.1 and run PageMaker 4.0. I don't expect Mac OS X to run
> it. When I think of System 7.1, something like a Macintosh IIci comes to
> mind, not a G4 Power Mac!
>
> Downward compatibility with legacy technologies also cause instabilities and
> expectations that cannot be met. If you've ever taken a software engineering
> course, you would understand this. Exponentially (using methods like Michael
> Jackson's rules of software testing {not the singer, the computer
> scientist}), it would take YEARS and YEARS to test any future release of an
> operating system. Corporations like Microsoft and Apple do not have this
> much time to spend on testing just to be downward compatible. And, if a
> company like Apple committed to have its OS downward compatible with
> something like System 7.1, it would be a technical support nightmare!!! So
> let's focus on being compatible with the latest releases of software, enjoy
> a true memory management system, and let the people who want to stick with
> their old apps and games keep their old computers and operating systems.
> There's nothing wrong with that! Hundreds of Apple II users can't be wrong.
>
> That's my opinion, but I could be wrong.
>
> --- Bryan
>
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> "JWolf6589" <jwolf6589@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
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> > Prove me wrong.  Here is a task for you, and I want to see screen shots or
> > movie files of your evidence that you completed the task.
> >
> > With your new G4, I want you to install system 7.1.x, system 7.5.x, system
> > 8.1.x, system 9.x and system OSX all on one Macintosh and I want you to be
>
> able
>
> > to boot to each of these OSes with ease.
> >
> > As I recall Apple has made it so its impossible (without tweaking with 3rd
> > party garbage or with resedit to boot old Oses on a newer Mac).
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