Re: Norton Ghost type program for IIgs?

[mjmahon@aol.com (Michael J. Mahon)]

Jason Whorton wrote:

>Hello and thanks for the information.  I re-read the manual and it does say
>it can copy hard drive to hard drive, but then of course I noticed that I
>only have the 5.25" disk and not the 3.5" disk.  I went to the Apple site
>and it says:
>
>Name:              Apple II SCSI Utilities
>Version:           1.1
>Date Released:     February 19, 1990
>Description:       SCSI Utilities disk for the Apple II
>
>The software posted here is available in two formats:
>
>1.)  A Macintosh self-extracting archive (.sea) of a Disk Copy 800K ProDOS
>disk image.  To use, download, double-click the downloaded file (this
>decompresses it), and use Disk Copy to create a disk.
>
>Disk Copy can be found in the Utilities folder posted here.
>
>2.)  An Apple IIGS ShrinkIt archive in Binary II format.  To use, download
>and use ShrinkIt to decompress and create a disk.
>
>Shrinkit can be found in the Apple II Supplemental folder posted here.
>
>
>
>Of course, I am caught in the same Catch-22 as everyone else trying to get a
>IIgs up and going, no full install of GS/OS.  :-(
>
>Thanks,
>Jason Whorton

I'm not sure I understand just which problem you have.

Do you have a 5.25" disk drive?  An Apple II is very limited in the
software than can be used if you do not have one.

You will need an older Mac (to write 800KB 3.5" disks) or a PC
with a serial connection to transfer downloaded images/files to
your Apple II.  An alternative is getting physical disks from A2 Central
or from some other source.

ProSel is a very comprehensive ProDOS-based program selector and
disk utility suite.  (A 16-bit version is also available, but perhaps harder
to use from a floppy drive.)

The "Volume Copy" utility included with ProSel is a fast, reliable
disk-to-disk volume copy program.  I have used it for years for just
the kind of backup you desire.  ProSel also contains one of the best
disk integrity checkers I have seen, called "Mr. Fixit".

If you want a simple, fast, free solution, download ProSel and you'll
be set.  All of this--and much else that you will want to do in the
future--requires that you have a convenient way to get downloaded
Apple II disk images onto Apple II 5.25" or 3.5" disks.  So that is
your first assignment...  ;-)

-michael


>"Terry Olsen" <tolsen64@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:Nelw9.30$Ad.6946944@news2.randori.com...
>> Whenever I try to make a 2mg image of a prodos hard disk partition, it
>will
>> get partially through, then error out with an overflow error...maybe I
>don't
>> have the latest version of Asimov???
>>
>>
>> "Mitchell Spector" <mitch2gs@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> 3dc1b33f.3937963@news.golden.net">news:3dc1b33f.3937963@news.golden.net...
>> > "Jason Whorton" <jason at microxl.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > >Hello.  Is there a program for the IIgs that is similar to Norton Ghost
>> for
>> > >the PC?  If you are not familiar with Norton Ghost, it allows a disk to
>> disk
>> > >copy, or a partition to partition copy.  It is run from a DOS bootable
>> > >floppy disk  I read my Apple High-Speed SCSI Card manual, and it states
>> that
>> > >the utility disk can back it up to floppies.  It didn't mention two
>hard
>> > >drives.  I am guessing that would have been insanely expensive ten
>years
>> > >ago.  I am slowly but surely getting my IIgs system up and going.  When
>I
>> do
>> > >get it up and going, one thing I want is to have two seperate hard disk
>> > >drives.  I want the second one to be an exact copy of the first one in
>> case
>> > >the hard drive dies.  Thanks to everyone who has posted helpful
>> information
>> > >whether for me or others.  It helps all of us.
>> >
>> >     I can think of at least two or three ways of accomplishing this. The
>> > first would be to use Ninjaforce's Asimov 2.0 program. It can create
>> > a image copy of an entire partition (stored as a '2MG' file) then
>restore
>> > a byte for byte copy onto the same or a new partition. Typically you'll
>> > require an HFS partition to store the '2MG' image file, as it'll exceed
>> > the file limit size for ProDOS (16 MB).
>> >
>> >     The second method would be to use GSTape to make an image
>> > copy, however this requires you have a SCSI tape drive and media.
>> > I've made backup copies of all my partitions this way, though I don't
>> > generally trust magnetic tape so I plan to burn 2MG images (created
>> > with Asimov) to CDR or CDRW's using my PC. I can at least read
>> > the CDR's on the IIgs side for restoring partitions.
>> >
>> >     Finally, and I may have the ONLY remaining copy of it, is a plug-in
>> > ROM replacement for the RamFAST controller that does very fast
>> > SCSI-to-SCSI partition copies. It was used by TMS Peripherals to
>> > make mass copies of hardrives they sold (with the OS and IIgs
>> > shareware pre-installed). If I can get ahold of an EPROM burner
>> > I'd be glad to share copies of it, or at least dump a copy to disk.

-michael

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