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Re: Juiced.GS



Exegete wrote:


LOL - like I care what you have to say.
That isn't exactly what I wanted to say... more of the, "if you want to put your head in the sand, who am I to stop you?" 




Here's what you could say, if you weren't so pompous:
"You're right, sometimes I have been rude too, and I'll try not to do that again." 

But I doubt that have enough honesty to do that.
Opps, seems my fingers weren't listening to my mind, I left out the "you" between "that" and "have".
On further reflection, I do think you should block my posts Paul, someone with such a pompous attitude as you demonstrated in recent posts must have a delicate psyche, and someone else pointing out items such as the hypocrisy of your post quoted below could do real psychic damage. I wouldn't want that on my conscience.
I, however, will continue to enjoy csa2 as it has been since Tom left. Nothing personal against Tom, and my own opinions on some issues has moderated, but he was a lightening rod for some because of past behavior, and as long as he was posting here, there were nasty posts back and forth, and the group was off topic: Apple II.
For me, I personally wish Tom well, and Jeff, and QC wherever he may be. Believe it or not Paul, I even wish you well. I hope that A2Central prospers as well as csa2. It is my hope that piracy is dead, or nearly so, but then, there are so few products still being sold that I doubt there's much interest is stealing the hard work of the very few who still serve this community. I really hope that the few productive individuals will not grow weary, nor be discourage by the badmouthing against that that has happened here in this newsgroup, even in the not too distant past. 




Paul Grammens wrote:


"Exegete" <millers@noneofyourbusiness.com> wrote
(the usual)
I've said my piece, Exegete. I don't think there's any need for me to say any more on this topic. I'm going to get back to helping keep the Apple II 
platform going.
I am curious here.... What have you EVER done to keep the platform going? I've never seen a program that you have written, or a piece of hardware that you have designed, nor have I even seen a book or booklet written on the Apple II with your name on it
So please Paul, enlighten me, what have YOU done that has kept the platform alive? 


  I'm blocking your posts as of....now.

Bye.
-Paul


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Paul Grammens wrote:



"Bruce Baker" <Bruce.Baker@juge.com> wrote



No I agree with Roy, this is more like a two way street.  You yourself



have



been part of the lane.




I've fought fire with fire, and CSA2 is the better for it.



I disagree.

Those who


persecuted Tom, Rubywand, et al got a taste of their own medicine from


me.



Ah, and what of the persecution of Joe Kohn et al in years/months past?
Do you care about that? I've never seen you defending their rights.




They don't bother us,



Who is "us"?

I won't bother them.  If you go back and take a look,


you'll see I didn't start any fights.



Ah, but you admit that you have given what you condemn others giving.
And even if you didn't "start any fights" who says such were started by
those you abused? I've seen plenty of blame to go around.
While I agree cursing is a big factor. I see no reason why intelligent 



people



should have to curse to make a point.  But why must people be called



Vogons?
People who get called Vogons usually called someone else something a lot 
worse first.



Perhaps. But not always. And in a number of cases not at all. Now, how
do you defend name calling when the person called a name hadn't done
such themselves?






Ridicule is a very powerful weapon.
Agreed. I used it defensively, and you'll find a lot more usefull Apple 


II


info here now and a lot less dreck.




While that is true, it had nothing to do with your ridicule. It has to
do with: 1) Tom not posting; 2)QC not posting; 3) Jeff H. not entering
any disputes; 4) Ditto Rudy.

It seems to me that you are taking credit for an accomplishment that
wasn't achieved by your ridicule.






I speak for no one, maybe some
would disagree. Well, I'm pretty sure that some would disagree. But we 



are



still too small to have two or more angry factions.




That's long been my point, Bruce.



So then, I suggest, rather than defending "your side" that you, and all
of us here, just ignore the lewd, rude, crude, and socially
unacceptable, and go one with the joy of promoting the Apple II.

Thumper's father wasn't all wrong, you know.

Roy




-Paul