Re: ANN: Web Browser for 8 bit Apple //

[julian814@hotmail.com (Ralph Glatt)]

chris@CosmicWolf.com (Chris Morse) wrote in message news:<3cac049b.353978874@news-east.newscene.com>...
> 
> Lynx only works with the Apple //GS, right?

Lynx is what is used when you are connected to a shell account. Any
Apple // can use Lynx. Unfortunately, it's a text-based web browser.
> 
> You're not alone in your want for a "connected" //e.

I prefer to use my //c. ;-)

> 
> I've been working on re-learning all my Apple //e past;
> mainly assembler and the memory/device/function mappings
> on the //e.  I hope to write some "useful" applications
> for myself & the A2 community at large.. (or small, as
> the case may be..)

It certainly seems as if we're a small community, especially those of
us still using 8 bit machines. Most of the software that's been
written over the past few years has been for the GS. I hope to change
that, soon.

> 
> Has anyone looked at uIP (pointed out by a previous poster)?
> http://dunkels.com/adam/uip/

I think we all saw it, and were excited!!!

> 
> I haven't looked at it closely yet, but I wonder if anyone 
> has looked into the possiblity of porting it to the Apple //.

I have the same hopes!

> 
> I have a background in internet programming, but mainly at
> the application level- eg, BSD sockets and WinSock.  I've written
> web, ftp, pop3 and numerous "custom" servers, and a lot of
> clients.. 
> 
> uIP has already been ported to the C64, obviously, so I imagine 
> it's just a matter of writing the necessary drivers for the //e, like
> a driver for the super serial card.  I'll have to look into
> uIP's docs and source to understand what needs to be done.

Would it be possible to use the //c as a baseline model? Most //e
owners have their computers souped up to at LEAST those standards, and
besides, I'd like to be able to run this on my //c!

> 
> Is anyone else working on this?

As far as I know, no one. I was afraid I'd have to do this myself, but
if someone with more experience in programming is willing to take on
the burden, I won't mind. ;-)

> 
> I've wanted to do something like this for a while; ever since
> I saw the web page for a *really* small TCP/IP implementation
> done by someone at UMass..  Not sophisticated, but the entire
> implementation was on the order of 256 or 512 bytes of code.
> Unfortunately, the creator was not sharing those magic numbers.

Well, we'll have to work with what's available. I'll help out where I
can, but I'm afraid I'm new to working in assembler. My joke pretty
much outlines what I'd like to see, but I'm not sure we can fit all
that on a double sided 5.25" floppy. I know where there's some
software that can convert gifs into something viewable on a //e, I'll
see if we can get permission to use it. Might not help much, though,
since most websites use jpgs, jpeg, or better. Keep posting here on
your progress, please!! If you want to contact me, use the email
address rbg at penn dot com.



Ralph Glatt