Re: Profile HD- What is necessary to make it work w/ the II's

[Randy Shackelford <shack@onyx.southwind.net>]

Supertimer <supertimer@aol.com> wrote:

: We are different kinds of Apple II fans.  You are the collector.
: You want things "as they were" which explains your love for
: something like ROM 0 IIGS with faulty VGCs.

Original != faulty. I had faulty VGCs at first in my original IIgs and kept
taking my box back to the dealer for a fix. The ROM 0 I have now has an
unupgraded VGC but does not suffer from bleedy 80 col text or pink DHR.

: I, on the other hand, want to hack units to push them as far as
: they can go for doing useful tasks.  Even though I have a
: Windows PC and have access to Macintoshes, I still like to
: use the IIGS for computing tasks much of the time.

It's not an either-or. My original Woz signature edition has a ROM 3 board 
in it along with a 4 mb memory card, a superdrive card with drive attached, 
a slinky memory card for RAM disk, and a SCSI hard disk and CD attached.
It's also networked to printers, routers, and file servers. But like I said,
I also have that ROM 0 signature edition, an original ][, a Mac 128, a Lisa,
and III and III plus.
 
: The original Apple II can't be pushed very far.  Certainly,
: it can't be pushed no matter how I hack it to word process
: a simple letter on an ink jet printer.  Thus, the original Apple II
: is useless to me, no matter how rare.

But if you're a real Apple II enthusiast you can appreciate it. Certainly
enough to say it shouldn't be gutted and used as a hard disk enclosure.

: The Apple IIGS and even the Apple IIe are useful
: computers to me.  They can actually DO the computing
: tasks that I'm interested in.

: There is nothing wrong with your point of view.  There is
: nothing wrong with my point of view either.  Both camps
: are represented here on csa2.  The Profile controversy has
: just brought these differences to a focus, that's all.

: You see a ROM 0 IIGS with faulty VGC and thing "gee,
: that's rare, I want it."

: I see a unit that needs upgrading to be useful.

I have one of each.
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