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Re: Wozniak vs Jobs
- Subject: Re: Wozniak vs Jobs
- From: regnirps@aol.com (Regnirps)
- Date: 1998/04/01
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
- Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
- References: <6ftt7n$4sj@drn.newsguy.com>
Jay wrote:
>Date: Wed, Apr 1, 1998 12:24 EST
>Message-id: <6ftt7n$4sj@drn.newsguy.com>
>
>In article <3522B7B9.552E1E69@on-line.de>, Ole says...
>>
>>> Apple was already working on the GUI and the Lisa when they were invited
>>> to Xerox's Palo Alto site to look around. Apple had someone working for
>>> them who had done a term paper on a GUI. What they got out of Pal Alto
>>> was just a better idea of how to implement some things.
>>
>>That's not what my books say.
>>
>>Ole
>>
>
> Anyone watch Triumph of the Nerds on PBS? You can read the transcript here.
> http://www-hep.physics.uiowa.edu/~bacus/TriumphOfTheNerds.html
>Rather entertaining historical overview.
>
>Here is a snip regards Jobs/Mac/GUI/PARC...
>
>Steve Jobs had co-founded Apple Computer in 1976. The first popular personal
>computer, the Apple 2, was a hit - and made Steve Jobs one of the biggest
>names
>of a brand-new industry. At the height of Apple's early success in December
>1979, Jobs, then all of 24, had a privileged invitation to visit Xerox Parc.
>
>Steve Jobs:
>"And they showed me really three things. But I was so blinded by the first
>one
>I didn't even really see the other two. One of the things they showed me was
>object orienting programming they showed me that but I didn't even see that.
>The other one they showed me was a networked computer system...they had over
>a
>hundred Alto computers all networked using email etc., etc., I didn't even
>see
>that. I was so blinded by the first thing they showed me which was the
>graphical user interface.
> I thought it was the best thing I'd ever seen in my life. Now remember it
>was
>very flawed, what we saw was incomplete, they'd done a bunch of things wrong.
>But we didn't know that at the time but still though they had the germ of the
>
>idea was there and they'd done it very well and within you know ten minutes
>it
>was obvious to me that all computers would work like this some day."
>
>It was a turning-point. Jobs decided that this was the way forward for Apple.
>
>Jay.
Weird how his memory worked isn't it? Considering that his inseperablw buddy at
the time) and employee about number 18) was Jef Raskin whose GUI thesis titled
Quickdraw was written in 1967 and which had been read by the Xerox PARC folks.
But they had a falling out and Jobs was like one of those Egyption Pharoes who
has the name of his predesesor erased from all public monuments and expunged
from his vocabulary.
Charlie Springer