Re: Piracy

[Donald Lee <leed@sfsu.edu>]

Hi,

	Sorry Joe, but I don't have much sympathy for the situation you
find yourself in.  From the tone of your posting, obviously some people
you thought were "good" people were on the "pirate" list you have in your
hands.  

	May I remind you of your (and others) reaction when the subject of
Asimov came up a few months ago??  It was, to say the least, pretty harsh
on those who defended the merits of Asimov.  And now you find out that
there are some "good" people, who you probably know and may be associated
with who have pirated some of the software you sell.  And what's your
reaction now? Confusion.  Joe, you got to do what you got to do,
especially since this affects your livelihood.  

	IMHO, it's time you backed up your words of a few months ago with
some real action and show that you won't stand having piracy in the A2
world.  If the pirates were someone like me, who you may know but don't
assoicate with frequently it definitely would make the choice easier.  But
from what i can see, it's not that simple.  Still, you will have to make a
stand, no matter how uncomfortable it is for you and those involved.  

	One thing you should not do IMHO, is to completely blame Turley
for this.  As you stated he's around gotten some punishment for what he
did by having his wco account terminated and if you so choose you could
probably pursue legal action against him.  

	But again from the tone of your post plus your history with
Turley, and your obvious dislike for the man, it seems to me that you have
already decided to blame Turley for it.  

	IMHO, it is completely wrong to blame Turley for what has
happened.  What Turley did was wrong, obviously.  But did Turley go around
to each of the people on the pirate list, and force them to download the
programs??  I don't think Turley has that much influence over people.  My
point is that Turley did wrong by providing the opportunity to download
the programs to people.  But those people had a CHOICE: They could ignore
it and do the right thing, or they could do the wrong thing and download
them.  

	Obviously, some did the wrong thing.  I am sorry you find yourself
in this situation, but things like this happen.  I hope you will do the
thing that you feel is the best, without compromising your morals and
ethics.  

-Don
    

	


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On 10 Feb 1997, Joe Kohn wrote:

> Charles Turley has placed me, and some of you, in a very weird and
> uncomfortable situation.
> 
> Some of you may think that "anonymous ftp" means that your anonymity is
> protected. But, it's not. Every one of your keystrokes are saved to a
> logfile when you are connected to an anonymous ftp server. Whether you know
> it or not, your actual e-mail address is also logged.
> 
> I finally went through the ftp logfile and found out the e-mail addresses
> of everyone who downloaded LemminGS and/or the Convert 3200 source code
> from the adidam site.
> 
> Looking at that list was quite a shock.
> 
> It leaves me in a horrible situation. What am I going to do? What can I do?
> Forgive and forget? Blame it all on Turley? Turn my other cheek? Post a
> list of pirates? 
> 
> I'm not at all pleased about this situation. But, I'm certainly open to 
> suggestions about how to rectify this situation as soon as possible.
> 
> Thanks for nothing, Turley.
> 
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