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Re: I appologize for confusing Apple with Mac



Ralph Wade Phillips (ralphp@gcstation.net) wrote:
: Hi, Tilghman!

: In article <515r0k$fm1@news.vanderbilt.edu>, lesherjt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu
: (Tilghman Lesher) wrote:

: > Randy Shackelford (shack@deimos.frii.com) wrote:
: > : In article <510uoe$76v@usenet10.interramp.com>,

: (stuff deleted)

: > And consider that other computer companies, i.e. Microsoft, are only now
: > discontinuing product support (after sales have long since dwindled to
: > $0), Apple simply isn't at the top of the heap.  It's made some VERY BAD
: > marketing decisions which make IBM's decision to hand off the OS seem
: > TRIVIAL.

:         Eh.  Not to justify Apple dropping the Apple // family, but SCO
: and Microsoft have BOTH dropped support WAY before the $0 point was
: reached.

:         Example:  Windows 3.1.  What new is coming from Microsoft for Win
: 3.1?  Nada.  How about sales?  It STILL sells $ for $ matched with Win95

If I call Microsoft with a Windows 3.1 problem, how much will you bet
against the idea that they'll not only help me, but give me serious
help.

If I call Apple with a Apple //gs problem, how much will you bet that
Apple WILL help me.  Let's even suppose this was in 1993?!!!

: (more stuff deleted)

: > 
: > "Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it."  Five years down the
: > road, Apple will probably discontinue support for the 68000 processor
: > machines.  HAL 9000 says, "Are you sure you're making the right decision?"

:         Read press releases.  MacOS 8 will NOT support 68K machines. 
: 7.5.4 (due out this month) will be the last to support a 68000 (aka
: "Macintosh Plus" in Apple-ese) based computer.

:         Five years?  Nope, more like next year.

So not only did Apple make a stupid decision before, it doesn't learn
from its mistakes!  What's that quote about survival of the fittest?

:         Does that make your point?  Nope.  Sooner or later, ALL systems
: will be dropped.  It's a matter of when does it quit paying enough to be

At the time of the release of the Mac, the market was 5:1 in favor of Apple
2's.  If Apple had actually actively supported and PROMOTED the Apple 2,
instead of the Mac, I think Apple, Inc. would be MUCH better off today.

Not to mention that Mac would've gone the way of the Apple ///.

: worth it.  I agree, Apple's decision to drop the Apple // line was
: premature.  But, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE DROPPED SOONER OR LATER.  So with 68K
: support for the Macintosh family.  So it is, so it shall be.

:         Or would you rather that they make software for your IIgs run on a
: 4K Apple ][ with Integer BASIC?  They dropped support for THAT LONG before
: the IIgs was dropped ...

If we called Apple, Inc in '88 (to suppose a date before the //gs was dropped),
I very much think they would've helped someone get a "4K Apple ][ w/ Int
BASIC" running again.  Compared to most any current PC, the Apple //'s were
VERY ROBUST machines.

: (rest of message deleted)


:         RwP

: -- 
: Ralph Wade Phillips, CET #LA-82
: ralphp@gcstation.net

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