Re: I appologize for confusing Apple with Mac

[ralphp@gcstation.net (Ralph Wade Phillips)]

Hi, Tilghman!

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> 
> :         Eh.  Not to justify Apple dropping the Apple // family, but SCO
> : and Microsoft have BOTH dropped support WAY before the $0 point was
> : reached.
> 
> :         Example:  Windows 3.1.  What new is coming from Microsoft for Win
> : 3.1?  Nada.  How about sales?  It STILL sells $ for $ matched with Win95
> 
> If I call Microsoft with a Windows 3.1 problem, how much will you bet
> against the idea that they'll not only help me, but give me serious
> help.

        Dunno.  They don't help ME much, if any at all.  'Course, the fact
that I usually know MORE than Tech Support might help some ... <B-)

> 
> If I call Apple with a Apple //gs problem, how much will you bet that
> Apple WILL help me.  Let's even suppose this was in 1993?!!!

        Just about as much as Windows 3.1 Tech Support helps me ... I've
quite often had to read from the Tech Ref books BACK to Tech Support, and
ask them why the discrepency ... <B-(

        Back when the //e was still big at Apple, I also had trouble with
tech support.  Nowadays, most anything you could have gotten from Tech
Support back in the late 80's was mostly in the Tech Notes.  And, since
the Tech Notes are available via the FTP sites ...

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> : (more stuff deleted)
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> : > 
> : > "Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it."  Five years down the
> : > road, Apple will probably discontinue support for the 68000 processor
> : > machines.  HAL 9000 says, "Are you sure you're making the right decision?"
> 
> :         Read press releases.  MacOS 8 will NOT support 68K machines. 
> : 7.5.4 (due out this month) will be the last to support a 68000 (aka
> : "Macintosh Plus" in Apple-ese) based computer.
> 
> :         Five years?  Nope, more like next year.
> 
> So not only did Apple make a stupid decision before, it doesn't learn
> from its mistakes!  What's that quote about survival of the fittest?

        So?  Microsoft won't support 386's on Windows NT 4.x.  Won't
support 486's from 4.5 and up.

        Is THIS the example you want to make?  386's were actively new
MUCH more recently than the //gs was.

> 
> :         Does that make your point?  Nope.  Sooner or later, ALL systems
> : will be dropped.  It's a matter of when does it quit paying enough to be
> 
> At the time of the release of the Mac, the market was 5:1 in favor of Apple
> 2's.  If Apple had actually actively supported and PROMOTED the Apple 2,
> instead of the Mac, I think Apple, Inc. would be MUCH better off today.

        Nope.  Altho, Microsoft would not have become the powerhouse it IS
today, IMAO.

> 
> Not to mention that Mac would've gone the way of the Apple ///.

        Not likely.  But, then again, who knows?

> 
> : worth it.  I agree, Apple's decision to drop the Apple // line was
> : premature.  But, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE DROPPED SOONER OR LATER.  So with 68K
> : support for the Macintosh family.  So it is, so it shall be.
> 
> :         Or would you rather that they make software for your IIgs run on a
> : 4K Apple ][ with Integer BASIC?  They dropped support for THAT LONG before
> : the IIgs was dropped ...
> 
> If we called Apple, Inc in '88 (to suppose a date before the //gs was
dropped),
> I very much think they would've helped someone get a "4K Apple ][ w/ Int
> BASIC" running again.  Compared to most any current PC, the Apple //'s were
> VERY ROBUST machines.

        The same way they would today - swap everything.  Don't argue too
much, I STILL have my diplomas from Apple Level 1.5 Training back in '82
...

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> 
> :         RwP
> 
> : -- 
> : Ralph Wade Phillips, CET #LA-82
> : ralphp@gcstation.net

        Let me add - Apple Trained Service Tech, back in the early 80's.

        RwP

Note:  Please trim this off.  This is to get the reply past the news
server I'm using, since it insists on not letting me post if I don't type
MORE than what I'm replying to.  SOOO .... Sometimes I havbe to type a
long, rambling paragraph to convince the news server that it's
worthwhile.  Now, isn't this a TOTAL waste of bandwidth, or what?  Like I
said, some computers are TOO stupid to be trusted in the real world ...
<B-)

-- 
Ralph Wade Phillips, CET #LA-82
ralphp@gcstation.net