Re: I am a Bad Boy (was What new with 1WsW)

[neiderma@er5.rutgers.edu (Kid)]

And the love saga continues....

rwifall@nmsu.edu (Richard J Wifall) writes:
>Kid (neiderma@er5.rutgers.edu) wrote:

>[in interests of readability and bandwidth, read the original articles
>if you need to know more.]
>: But you didn't.  And it's all my fault.

>Is there something so inherently wrong with Ian bragging and giving a
>hint of what GS users might have in store for them in the future??  I
>wouldn't had one problem with your post if you had said "Are you
>planning on releasing this software anytime soon?"

>However, instead you said (with obvious sarcasm) "How about you
>release this program, genius" (not an exact quote, but close enough).

Um, herein lies the problem with usenet.  All ASCII.  No tones
or voice inflections are discernable.  I happen to know that Ian
is a damn good programmer, one of the best for the GS, period.  I
can't ask a question?  Should I send my posts to you first in 
email to make sure they sound right?  Seems that you mistook my
little-wannabe-tongue-in-cheek for a slam.  Lighten up.

>It implied to me that you felt he was under some obligation to release
>it.  And that you were doubting his statement, and required proof in
>the form of a release.  I found those implications offensive.  Watch
>what you say in the future, and you'll get flamed much less often.

You could have asked me what I was talking about if you thought my
2-line followup to his post was unclear or something.  It's a free
world, and if Ian or you decides not to release something, or just
keep it for yourself, OK.  You/Ian don't have to prove yourselves
by releasing it if you don't want to.  But don't bother bragging
to the world "look what I can do that you can't".  What does that
accomplish?

>	You missed the point entirely.  I'm not sure I can get much
>simpler, but I'll try.  1) I am not planning on making any significant
>amount of money selling software on the AppleIIgs.  2) If I find
>something offensive, I'm going to let you know.  3) The program will
>speak for itself, and if people don't want to try it out because they
>don't like me, that is their loss.

Thanks for making things simple for me.  I can barely figure out
how to use all these Apple Mouse buttons. :)

1) OK, but if you're good, you deserve some bucks.  But I guess you
don't want bucks, you'd rather gloat (or defend a gloater in this case).
2) Thanks for letting me know Ian has been offended, I have trespassed
on most holy ground.  Wow, Ian is so big he doesn't even have to hit
a key, someone else can do it for him.
3) I am sure the program is  I have yet to be disappointed.
3b) Name someone who doesn't like you.  I didn't know csa2 was so small
that people could make personal contact, see each other's faces, and
like/dislike each other.  Maybe I need a newer nn. :)

>	I'm no Microsoft and I never plan to be.  It's also of
>interest to point out that people slam Microsoft probably more then
>any other company in the computer industry.

I guess I shouldn't have made the Microsoft analogy, I don't want to
get on a tangent of a tangent.  Oops.  The people who slam Microsoft
are people who know better.  But there's another 110 million people who
own Pee Cees that keep buying the stuff because of good marketing
(and attitude).

>	What it should sound like is "People shouldn't go out of their
>way to be hostile towards people who do program on the GS." because
>that's how I feel.  Especially if they want the programmers to release
>something they are working on.

Who was going out of their way to be hostile to those who program
on the GS?  I make a mini-remark, maybe 100 characters, pretty innocent,
and now I have to take a hike.  Can't we all just get along? :)
There's no hostility in my voice, but I think it was lost in the
ASCII sea.

>: Does this mean you don't love me?  :)
>	Yup

Ouch.  Time to fire up the Aquarius, there's no love for me here. :)

>: Relax a little, Richard.  Not everyone is out to get you.
>	I'm not flaming everyone...

Oh.  Well, as I strip off my asbestos suit, let's kiss and make up.
I was out of line for asking Ian for a release date like I did.
I apologize publically.  Is there anything else you'd like to say?  



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---------------Kid (neiderma@eden.rutgers.edu)