I am again having problems with a certain point in Bard's Tale. I have the onyx key, but I still can't get into Mangar's Tower. Does the hint that Kylearon gave me mean anything(Seeing is not always believing)? I don't want the answer, but just a hint. Thanks. ---- colbyp@pro-freedom.van.wa.us -==- Pro-Freedom BBS - (206) 694-3276 ==============================================================