Re: METAL is now FREE!!!!!!

[dsdd@okcforum.osrhe.edu (Roy Barrett)]

Daniel Vachon (dvac@druwa.ATT.COM) wrote:
: Well Roy...Are you a sysop?!  Have you ran METAL/FV on an Apple //e before?!

Actually, I am a sysop, and yes, I have run Metal/FV on an Apple IIe (actually,
I ran it on a Laser 128, same difference.)

: The slow down was very apparent in message base sections...Also the Spacer
: Quest I had (the Metal Version) on-line with METAL was PAINFULLY slow.   

That was Future Vision, not Metal.  It has a lot more code than GBBS ever
ever EVER had.

The Spacer Quest conversion sucked.  I could do better with my eyes closed.

: and granted, METAL has a lot of really nice things in it, but the loss of speed
: really was not worth it.  I also had problem after problem with the up/download
: protocols.  Xmodem was the only one people could use reliably.  With or 
: without compression on the HST.  And the sysop utilities in FV are unmatched
: by any other BBS program available, I will openly admit.  It is a hell of a 
: system, it just is not cut out to be run on an Apple //e with or without a 
: Transwap //e.  I think you will find that most sysops out there are running on
: accelerated Apple //gs's at 8 to 10Mhz....

Are you running on a RamFAST?  If you've ever seen a RamFAST, it increases the
speed in Metal like 300%.  I went from a HS DMA SCSI to a RF Rev D, and I
almost freaked, it was so fast.

Accelerators help, but the RamFAST...  Try it out sometime.

: Maybe you should spend some time checking into some facts before inserting thy
: foot in thy mouth...  I am not ANTI-Metal or ANTI-FV, nor am I anti-ACOS.  

Actually, I did.

: They all have their places is what I am saying...  METAL/FV is great for high
: speed Apple //s, while ACOS is better for the low end.  Also, my BBS code for
: ACOS is pretty large, as I ran an ACOS system for about 5 years before 
: switching to METAL.  There were quite a few features in FV that I have similar
: things coded for in my ACOS bbs.   In your mind, maybe METAL/FV is god, but
: then maybe you have a //gs or something...I just have a //e, and IMHO ACOS or
: MACOS is a better bet for me.

Do your own thing.  Some people never learn.  Oh well.

Roy