Re: METAL is now FREE!!!!!!

[dvac@druwa.ATT.COM (Daniel Vachon)]

In article <C536xE.Cuq@darkside.osrhe.uoknor.edu>, dsdd@okcforum.osrhe.edu (Roy Barrett) writes:
> Daniel Vachon (dvac@druwa.ATT.COM) wrote:
> 
> : un-accelerated Apple //e, or even a Transwarped //e....I would not recommend
> : METAL/FV for you.  
> 
> I don't think so...  Metal is -so- much faster than Acos, I've seen it on
> all kinds of computers.  Something could actually be wrong, or the versions
> of Metal you used had bad memory management.
> 
Well Roy...Are you a sysop?!  Have you ran METAL/FV on an Apple //e before?!
The slow down was very apparent in message base sections...Also the Spacer
Quest I had (the Metal Version) on-line with METAL was PAINFULLY slow.   

> : My 1 MHz ACOS system ran about 5 times faster than by 3.8MHz METAL system.

> .... The kernel and the language that Metal has still
> kills Acos.  Maybe the slowness was in FV, since GBBS is so lame as to even
> have 1/20th of the coding Future Vision has.
> 

and granted, METAL has a lot of really nice things in it, but the loss of speed
really was not worth it.  I also had problem after problem with the up/download
protocols.  Xmodem was the only one people could use reliably.  With or 
without compression on the HST.  And the sysop utilities in FV are unmatched
by any other BBS program available, I will openly admit.  It is a hell of a 
system, it just is not cut out to be run on an Apple //e with or without a 
Transwap //e.  I think you will find that most sysops out there are running on
accelerated Apple //gs's at 8 to 10Mhz....

> : just some food for thought...
> 
> I think this food has gone bad.

Maybe you should spend some time checking into some facts before inserting thy
foot in thy mouth...  I am not ANTI-Metal or ANTI-FV, nor am I anti-ACOS.  
They all have their places is what I am saying...  METAL/FV is great for high
speed Apple //s, while ACOS is better for the low end.  Also, my BBS code for
ACOS is pretty large, as I ran an ACOS system for about 5 years before 
switching to METAL.  There were quite a few features in FV that I have similar
things coded for in my ACOS bbs.   In your mind, maybe METAL/FV is god, but
then maybe you have a //gs or something...I just have a //e, and IMHO ACOS or
MACOS is a better bet for me.

-Dan