: an ls look's like this :- : : drwxr-xr-x 2 fred 2048 Oct 30 10:28 dir : -rw-r--r-- 1 fred 8282 Jul 17 13:20 README -- Actually, that's a 'dir'... an 'ls' only shows filenames... ;) ===================================== dsdd@okcforum.osrhe.uoknor.edu #1@#31 ===================================== Roy Barrett... Yep, that's my name...