Re: Group purchase of Lisa, Lisa 2, Apple II, Apple III, Early Mac Software CD?

["Bill Garber" <willy46pa@comcast.net>]

"Michael J. Mahon" <mjmahon@aol.com> wrote in message sPWdnWtbB5lBY4bfRVn-hg@comcast.com">news:sPWdnWtbB5lBY4bfRVn-hg@comcast.com...
: Bill Garber wrote:
: > "Declan MacLeod" <declan_macleoid@now-munged-for-your-protection.hotmail.com> wrote in message
: > declan_macleoid-1A85B3.17481522022005@news1-ge0.southeast.rr.com">news:declan_macleoid-1A85B3.17481522022005@news1-ge0.southeast.rr.com...
: > : In article <j8udnX8sKLnXDIbfRVn-gg@comcast.com>,
: > :  "Bill Garber" <willy46pa@comcast.net> wrote:
: > :
: > : > "Tim Haynes" <timhaynes@alumni.no.spam.please.uwaterloo.ca> wrote in message
: > : > news:cvg2cq$qlh$1@rumours.uwaterloo.ca...
: > : > :
: > : > : It wasn't mishandled or anything - just went bad.  Odd that I could get a
: > : > : directory listing, but nothing else.
: > : >
: > : > That IS very odd, indeed. Have you tried making a global
: > : > image of the CD and burning it back onto better media???
: > :
: > : I've had a bunch of properly-cared-for CD-Rs go bad.  Apparently
: > : adhesive labels are bad juju.  Maybe Sharpies as well...
: >
: > I used to put on the paper labels printed and sharpied, but
: > although they wouldn't read properly as directories/files,
: > a global image reburned to an unlabeled CD-R would bring
: > tham back to life. That is why I asked if you tried that.
:
: The first thing I tried with my DVDs is a full disk copy.
:
: But when a track can't be read after hundreds of tries,
: it doesn't matter much what kind of read is failing...

Very true.

: A consequent problem that I've seen a couple of times is
: arc-shaped contact marks where the laser head has attempted
: to refocus so much that its barrel has apparently come in
: contact with the disk surface--kind of a new spin on "head
: crash".  ;-(

The ultimate CD damaging tool is the autoeject slide-in
drives as were used in many Compaq computers in the the
earlier years. I replaced my GFs drive recently because
it was doing such damage to CDs that they failed even to
stay inside the drive.  :o)

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