Re: getting DOS onto a //c+

[supertimer@aol.com (Supertimer)]

noone@nowhere.net wrote:

>> Will the DOS33dmp utility work?
>
>Yes, so long as you have a 5.25" drive.  Probably the easiest way would
>be to ask someone to ship you a couple disks to get started.
>
>I would recommend that you acquire a 5.25" drive for your IIc+ to make
>sure you get the maximum value from it. There are many fine software
>(read games) out there for the Apple II that are tied to their 5.25"
>diskettes.

I was an Apple II fanatic for many years, still am in a way.  One thing
that always got me was how a sizable part of the Apple II community
refused to advance beyond a certain point.  Granted, Apple ultimately
killed the II but user perception had a lot to do with it.

The best software titles were NOT DOS 3.3 stuff on 5.25" disks. That
is akin to saying DOS 5.0 software were the best software for the
PC ever.  When I was an active Apple II user, I ditched DOS 3.3 as
soon as ProDOS came out because it was SO MUCH better.  As
far as I am concerned, the best 8-bit software came out after ProDOS.
DOS 3.3 5.25" stuff was limited mainly to using the lower 48k of
memory.  80 column capability, 128k to 1MB support, all the stuff
that made an Apple IIc/IIe/IIc+ much more than simply an Apple II+
was not tapped in DOS 3.3 programs.

When GS/OS came out, I dumped 75% of my old ProDOS stuff
because it was a much better OS.  The ones I kept were the more
advanced ones like 8-bit AppleWorks, Publish-It!, and ProTERM.

Once Apple devoted itself to the Macintosh completely, it was
like the users did little to continue the momentum.  First, the
IIGS was forgotten.  Ok, there were some die-hards and of all
the post Apple II+ computers, the IIGS received the most user
support and for years after Apple's discontinuation of the model,
fine stuff came out for it but ultimately, the Apple II+ forces
dominated.  Next to go were the IIc+, IIe, and IIc.  It was bad
enough that people advocated running just ProDOS on a IIGS
thereby negating the Ensoniq wavetable sound chip and 3200
color graphics, now IIe and IIc users and even IIc+ users were
being told to run DOS 3.3!

So in the end what have we come to?  Emulator users and the
all mighty Apple II+.

Makes me a little sad.  I remember when the IIe Professional
system came out triumphantly after the failure of the III and
Lisa.  Apple was forced to put 128k and 80 columns into the
IIe and eat its words that the II was not good enough for
business.  The IIc+ and the IIGS were beautiful machines.
We should not reduce their memory to the Apple II+ which
was where Apple wanted the Apple II story to end.