> > Well I wasn't being sarcastic, but there was a touch of melancholy. Hei guy, right now, that there are I too .. I worked with my Apple IIc from 1985 to 1996, then put in a box. Now, after 16 years reopen the box and find I have many friends who still use the apple II. I still have much to learn and experiments to be carried out. :-D Ric.