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Re: Dos 33 Launcher
On Thursday, April 25, 2013 6:08:51 AM UTC-5, RJ wrote:
> Alex Lee wrote:
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> > On 2013-04-25 06:44:15 +1000, Rommel Junta said:
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> >> posted this in another discussion forum and was told to post it here.
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> >> Ive dloaded Dos 3.3 launcher for my rom 3 IIgs. I have read the txt file
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> >> on
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> >> how to use it with gs/os and installation to hard drive. I cannot get my
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> >> head around on actually how this works on the hard drive partition
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> >> (32mb).
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> >> If anybody is using this software I would appreciate some assistance on
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> >> how
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> >> to prepare my hd partition and gs.os for using the launcher.
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> >> Some of my questions are as follows:
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> >> 1. with the 32mb partition, I want it to hold all my dos 3.3 files. Do I
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> >> need to divid this partition into smaller 140k partitions?
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> >> 2. When I run dos 3.3 launcher it boots Prodos 8 but this gives me a 'no
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> >> startup file' prompt.
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> >> 3. Do I need a physical 5.25 disk to transfer files to hard drive?
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> >> 4. can someone do a run through or step by step on how I can install d3l
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> >> and
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> >> put dos 3.3 files onto hd.
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> >> thanks for any help you may provide.
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> > I've been preparing a DOS 3.3 Launcher 32meg ProDOS image for quite
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> > some time now and hope to release it soon. It’ll include as many single
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> > loader/ file based DOS 3.3 games as I’ve found rummaging through
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> > various archives and sources, as well as some full disk images that
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> > work with it (although I haven’t found as many as I’d like that work).
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> > Until then, if you want to better understand it:
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> > 1) You don’t need to do anything special with partitioning. Just keep a
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> > 32 meg ProDOS image.
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> > 2) With the IIGS, you don’t need to specifically run the DOS Launcher
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> > SYS executable. What you do need to do is once you have the DOS 3.3
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> > single files or disk images on your ProDOS volume, that you run the
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> > ‘DOS.3.3.COPIER’ S16 application. For each single file or disk image,
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> > you need to ‘Set Launch Options…’ from the file menu. The defaults
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> > are
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> > best. What this does is not only set those options for each file, but
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> > when you return to the IIGS Finder, when you double click that file, it
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> > will then load the ‘DOS3.3.LAUNCHER’ and then automatically load the
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> > file you just double clicked.
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> > It’s preferable to run System 6.0.1 with DOS 3.3 Launcher from
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> > experience. I had trouble double clicking on a DOS 3.3 game and System
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> > 5.0.4 knowing where to find the DOS 3.3 Launcher app.
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> > 3) You don’t need physical 5.25” to transfer files to the hard drive
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> > image, although, I’ve found that emulators don’t play perfectly when
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> > it
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> > comes to the Disk ][ and the emulated System 6.0.1 environment. Sweet
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> > 16 can’t deal with it. KEGS (and variants ActiveGS and GSPort) can deal
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> > with it, but it’s rather slow.
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> > 4) The quickest way would be to use a program like CiderPress or Apple
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> > Commander to copy files from DOS 3.3 disk images, or the whole disk
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> > images themselves, to your 32 meg ProDOS volume with DOS 3.3 Launcher.
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> > Are you on a Mac or PC?
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> > - Alex
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> Thanks Alex, as an aside, I love your website, learned quite a few things
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> about the iigs from your site.
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> right now, im null modem connection with windows vista (pc). Ive run
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> Ciderpress on PC, but I do not see a command or icon for transferring to
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> apple (I didn't know that could be done with CP, I have always used Adtpro),
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> which icon is it from the menu?
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> My IIgs set up is as follows:
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> Rom 3 IIgs running system 6.0.1
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> scsi hd
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> 3.5 drive
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> 5.25 drive
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> I have installed Dos 3.3 FST to sys6.0.1, and when I put in a 5.25 floppy
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> (ie: Magic Window //e), sys6.0.1 creates a icon on the desktop. I can open
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> it and view the contents but when I using 'dos 3.3 copier' it gives me a
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> error $27 (s6,d1 to Hd volume). I have also tried copy2+ copying from
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> s6,d1 to hd volume but it gives me error.
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> Reading your instructions, i can just put the disk image (.dsk, 2mg) from pc
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> to apple hd using ciderpress or hyperterminal/preterm, then once i have that
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> on my apple hd, i can just launch that image with dos3.3 launcher?
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> thanks for help again.
You're better off using ADTPro to transfer disk images to you Apple from your PC. I think what Alex was telling you about CiderPress is using it to get your DOS 3.3 images into your 32MB disk image, you can't use CiderPress to transfer images from your PC to the Apple.