Re: Dos 33 Launcher

[Rommel Junta <moddkid@gmail.com>]

Alex Lee wrote:
> On 2013-04-25 06:44:15 +1000, Rommel Junta said:
> 
>> posted this in another discussion forum and was told to post it here.
>> 
>> Ive dloaded Dos 3.3 launcher for my rom 3 IIgs.  I have read the txt file
>> on
>> how to use it with gs/os and installation to hard drive.  I cannot get my
>> head around on actually how this works on the hard drive partition
>> (32mb).
>> If anybody is using this software I would appreciate some assistance on
>> how
>> to prepare my hd partition and gs.os for using the launcher.
>> 
>> Some of my questions are as follows:
>> 
>> 1. with the 32mb partition, I want it to hold all my dos 3.3 files.  Do I
>> need to divid this partition into smaller 140k partitions?
>> 2. When I run dos 3.3 launcher it boots Prodos 8 but this gives me a 'no
>> startup file' prompt.
>> 3. Do I need a physical 5.25 disk to transfer files to hard drive?
>> 4. can someone do a run through or step by step on how I can install d3l
>> and
>> put dos 3.3 files onto hd.
>> 
>> thanks for any help you may provide.
> 
> I've been preparing a DOS 3.3 Launcher 32meg ProDOS image for quite 
> some time now and hope to release it soon. It’ll include as many single 
> loader/ file based DOS 3.3 games as I’ve found rummaging through 
> various archives and sources, as well as some full disk images that 
> work with it (although I haven’t found as many as I’d like that work).
> 
> Until then, if you want to better understand it:
> 
> 1) You don’t need to do anything special with partitioning. Just keep a 
> 32 meg ProDOS image.
> 
> 2) With the IIGS, you don’t need to specifically run the DOS Launcher 
> SYS executable. What you do need to do is once you have the DOS 3.3 
> single files or disk images on your ProDOS volume, that you run the 
> ‘DOS.3.3.COPIER’ S16 application. For each single file or disk image, 
> you need to ‘Set Launch Options…’ from the file menu. The defaults
> are 
> best. What this does is not only set those options for each file, but 
> when you return to the IIGS Finder, when you double click that file, it 
> will then load the ‘DOS3.3.LAUNCHER’ and then automatically load the 
> file you just double clicked.
> 
> It’s preferable to run System 6.0.1 with DOS 3.3 Launcher from 
> experience. I had trouble double clicking on a DOS 3.3 game and System 
> 5.0.4 knowing where to find the DOS 3.3 Launcher app.
> 
> 3) You don’t need physical 5.25” to transfer files to the hard drive 
> image, although, I’ve found that emulators don’t play perfectly when
> it
> 
> comes to the Disk ][ and the emulated System 6.0.1 environment. Sweet 
> 16 can’t deal with it. KEGS (and variants ActiveGS and GSPort) can deal 
> with it, but it’s rather slow.
> 
> 4) The quickest way would be to use a program like CiderPress or Apple 
> Commander to copy files from DOS 3.3 disk images, or the whole disk 
> images themselves, to your 32 meg ProDOS volume with DOS 3.3 Launcher. 
> Are you on a Mac or PC?
> 
> - Alex
>

Thanks Alex,  as an aside, I love your website, learned quite a few things
about the iigs from your site.

right now, im null modem connection with windows vista (pc).  Ive run
Ciderpress on PC, but I do not see a command or icon for transferring to
apple (I didn't know that could be done with CP, I have always used Adtpro),
which icon is it from the menu?  

My IIgs set up is as follows:

Rom 3 IIgs  running system 6.0.1
scsi hd
3.5 drive
5.25 drive

I have installed Dos 3.3 FST to sys6.0.1, and when I put in a 5.25 floppy
(ie: Magic Window //e), sys6.0.1 creates a icon on the desktop.  I can open
it and view the contents but when I using 'dos 3.3 copier' it gives me a
error $27  (s6,d1 to Hd volume).  I have also tried copy2+ copying from
s6,d1 to hd volume but it gives me error.  

Reading your instructions, i can just put the disk image (.dsk, 2mg) from pc
to apple hd using ciderpress or hyperterminal/preterm, then once i have that
on my apple hd, i can just launch that image with dos3.3 launcher?

thanks for help again.