Re: Delphi Dumps Apple II users (and others)

["Donald C. Lee" <coach41@pacbell.net>]

(posted to comp.sys.apple2 just in case anyone's curious)

Hi Jack,

    Yes, I use a PC-compatible to run Pine.  :)  To be perfectly honest, I
never thought about using Pine on my PC for email.  But I just happened to
be at work one day and the thought passed me by because I had remembered
seeing the Pine support site (at the Uni. of Washington) and noting there
was a PC version. 

    Now how does it work?  Well, i downloaded Pine to my local
machine.  It just so happened that my ISP seems to have finally gotten
with the times and went with the IMAP email protocol.  If you're familiar
with email protocols, there is POP (Post Office Protocol) which is an
older one.  IMAP is a newer and more advanced one.  I don't know a ton
about the protocols, but IMAP allows you to manipulate email on the ISP's
server without actually downloading the email to your local machine.

   So all I did was:

1.  Download and Install PC-Pine
2.  Set Pine to read email off my ISP's mail server (setting is probably
something like this:

    {posttoffice.pacbell.net}INBOX

3.  Plug in the user names and other settings and you should be ready to
roll

   Now note, PC-Pine will run exactly as any other email client (Netscape,
Outlook) on your PC.  That is, you'll probably have to enter your password
to check your email when you boot up.  I haven't figured out how to 'save
password' ala Netscape.  

   Trying to get PC-Pine running correctly initially was a tough
job.  It's a lot different when you run Pine on a server and it's all set
up for you.  But after taking some time to figure it out, it works just
fine now.  :)

   If you need some assistance, please email me.  there is also a Pine
Usenet group (comp.mail.pine I think) that the Uni. of Washington
developers look at.  They should be able to assist you.  

   Good luck!

Don

    
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On Sat, 26 Aug 2000, Jack Countryman wrote:

> Donald C. Lee wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> >     Unfortunately, while most of us Apple II users know "Lynx" and
> > "Pine" or other shell stuff, most "normal" users these days are weened on
> > Netscape and IE.  Imagine telling old grandma or grandpa how to use a
> > shell account for email/web!
> > 
> Tell me a little more about 'downloading PC-Pine' to your computer...? 
> I take it you use an IBM compatible in order to run Pine?  Doesn't it
> have to be on the server, as opposed to the individual computer that
> dials up to connect?  Or at least that was the way it used to work for
> me...Pine ran on the server, and I dialed in with ProTerm 3, or other vt
> emulator.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> 
> >     The problem is most ISP's are centered toward normal users (just ask
> > the one I work for!)  And most normal users don't know what shell accounts
> > are. So, why waste money with shell accounts?  The problem with that
> > mentality is that most of us who used shell accounts are left out!
> > 
> >     The funny thing is that most of the stuff on the Net is unix based and
> > so a shell is still necessary.  It seems to me that shell accounts are in
> > the domain of the "techies" rather most normal users.
> > 
> >     Oh by the way.....I got so tired of using Netscape for newsgroups and
> > hotmail for email, i downloaded "PC-Pine" to my computer.  Thus,
> > volia......back to the old days of text access for email and news.  :)  I
> > have to use my ISP for email, which is a tough prospect, but using Pine
> > again is enough to make me smile.  :) :)  ---> see what I mean :)
> > 
> > Don
> > 
> > Donald C. Lee
> > http://www.geocities.com/tokyo/bay/6073
> > Quote of the Week: "Definition of unscheduled maintenance: Anytime your
> > Internet service is not working and we don't know why!"
> >
>