Re: Apple 2 Where/How much

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labelas@hotmail.com (Labelas Enoreth) wrote:

>Ok, some small thing in me is screaming out to not jump into one of your
>agree-u-ments, but I need to say something
>
>Granted, I don't want to get flamed for
>this, but someone who is selling a IIgs with a huge HD, a laser printer, a
>17" monitor...'current' usable accessories...they would be better off
>either keeping it, or as one of you said, using it on something else
>
>I love the Apple series, from IIs to Macs, especially the IIgs (wish that
>the macs had gotten an Ensoniq chip, games rocked...and still do)...so
>don't think me bashing it in any way...I just, I guess, it seems like
>there's a real tension here that develops into an almost (excuse me if I
>offend anyone) religious fervor at times. Guys, lighten up. Even when
>you're 'not going to argue anymore' there's still an...edge...to
>everything. You both seem to be very good sources of information, a
>benefit especially when there's a problem someone has. But so easily
>diverted into clubbing each other over...trifles.

I agree with what you say, however Mitch does not.  I don't
disagree with the fact that the IIGS is an orphaned computer
whose value is not what it used to be.

The only thing I responded to was Mitch's assertion that he
could think of no IIGS SETUP that was worth $300 or more.
I gave him an example (I can picture it because I happen to
have an SVGA card and a gigabyte hard drive and lots of
other peripherals on my IIGS).

His MO is to try to challenge a definition, such as the definition
of the word "setup."  This time, he's trying to say that a
setup is just the computer and not the computer+peripherals.
That in itself is ludicrous.

After he redefines a key word, he goes around and tries
to speak as if I agree with his new definition such as
"anyone in their right mind would not say a IIGS is worth
$300+."  At this point, he is saying nothing that I have
actually said.  I never said bare bones IIGS is worth
$300+.  I ONLY gave him an example of a IIGS SETUP
(that's IIGS+peripherals) where it was clearly worth $300.

Mitch, after plugging words in my mouth, ends the typical
attack with some disparaging remark about me being
deluded about the worth of my IIGS and all that.

ALL I said was that there are IIGS SETUPS that are
worth $300+.  It was Mitch that started arguing about the
definition of the word setup, whether the peripherals
follow the computers or vice versa, and all that other
nonsense.  Finally, just because I say a IIGS SETUP
can be worth $300+ DOES NOT, I REPEAT DOES
NOT MEAN THAT I THINK A BARE BONES IIGS
IS WORTH THAT MUCH.