Re: Netbooting an Apple IIgs from netatalk

[pitz <pitz.wong@gmail.com>]

On Nov 11, 4:23 am, Steven Hirsch <snhir...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/10/2010 10:37 PM, pitz wrote:
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> > On Nov 10, 5:26 pm, Steven Hirsch<snhir...@gmail.com>  wrote:
> >> On 11/10/2010 02:58 PM, pitz wrote:
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> >>> It's been a little while since I was tinkering with this, and just
> >>> wrote my thoughts out at
> >>>http://peterwong.net/blog/?page_id=130
> >>> Should have you happily booting directly from netatalk into the GS/OS
> >>> Finder.
>
> >> Nice job, as usual!
>
> >> I'm envious of your success with the Etherwave and would love to figure out
> >> why we're having such different results.
>
> >> What is the part number on the bottom of your Etherwave?  What firmware level
> >> is it at?  Did you do anything special to configure it or your network?
>
> >> To date, the only bridge devices I've had success with are Kinetics/FastPath
> >> 4s with newer firmware and my trusty Gatorbox CS.
>
> >> The Etherwave (both of them I've tried) units start off fine, but after about
> >> two minutes they quietly stop forwarding the ASP tickle packets.  Both sides
> >> independently conclude that the other end has vanished and knock down their
> >> sessions.
>
> >> Possibly not as mysterious as Tony's travails with the Apple Ethernet card,
> >> but vexing nonetheless.
> > I'm not totally in the clear.  Here's what I've observed with my
> > EtherWave.  If I boot from my CFFA and mount a netatalk volume, I can
> > keep the volumes up for hours and hours.  If I netboot from netatalk,
> > the mount is accessible in the first few minutes, but then closes down
> > by itself after that.  Characterized first by unresponsive mouse
> > clicks, and then followed by a message "The file server xxxxx has
> > closed down."
>
> Precisely what I see - regardless of how I connect.
>
> > I've got a ROM3 with a ZipGSX disabled by the DIP switches, but re-
> > enabled from the CFFA boot through the ZipGS system setup.  Also
> > loading about half a dozen other stuff from the CFFA boot.  The irony
> > here is that it doesn't disconnect the volumes when booted via CFFA.
>
> No such luck here.  My IIGS is a ROM3 with ZipGSX hotrodded to 12.5Mhz., 8MB
> RAM card, Ramfast Rev. D, external SCSI hard disk plus an internally installed
> Applied Ingenuity Innerdrive.  I haven't tried netbooting the GS (just my
> IIe), but sessions always drop in a minute or two.
>
> > I'm using an EtherWave Mac/PB adapter.  I don't see a part number at
> > the bottom.  It's the model with the power taken from the ADB port.
>
> That's the exact one I have.
>
> > I'm not really that fond of the EtherWave, but it do has its
> > advantages -- power from the ADB port (no wall wart), auto-sensing
> > 10/100Mbps Ethernet port (no need for an in-between 10Mbps hub).  And
> > if I don't netboot, it works without problems.  Maybe WireShark traces
> > are in order.
>
> Been there, done that.  All they will show is that the ASP "tickle" from the
> IIgs client stops appearing after about two minutes.  The ones from the server
> continue on their way, but with no response forthcoming, the server declares
> the session dead.  All the while that the IIGS tickle fails to appear in the
> trace, you can watch the localtalk activity lights continue to flicker at 30
> second intervals.  My working theory is that both units are sending the
> packets, but the bridge simply stops forwarding them.
>
> Steve

I "re-discovered" (meaning stuff I knew before but forget if I haven't
used it for too long) that the ZipGS has compatibility settings in
relation to AppleTalk.  I found that copying the ZipInit and
ZipGS.Resetter files to the System.Setup folder on my netboot
environment got rid of the network disconnects.  According to the
ZipGS docs I've read again, the ZipGS has to be temporarily disabled
(slowed down) when accessing the AppleTalk network, and this is what
the ZipInit patch does.  I hope that that's also the problem with your
setup.