Re: No truce without a surrender and retreat: Mentzer's

[xyzzy@ponyexpress.net (Edward Franks)]

My glass typewriter shows Nathan Mates saying...
> As I detailed yesterday, Steve Mentzer is in posession of a large
> body of copyrighted (which should be enough) 

	I possess a large body of copyrighted software.  It was all 
purchased legally, so possession, per se, doesn't mean anything.  Can 
you prove that he possesses this software illegally?  I you have given 
proof, and not opinions, please point me to the proper message ids.

> *and* currently sold
> software (thus by his actions demolishing the mask of "I'm a nice
> guy and only steal from the really dead"),

	As do I.  All legally purchased.  Again, would you direct me to 
your proof?

> and has posted it to
> the internet last year and claims to be still doing so but less
> publically.

	I remember the flap last year, but I've missed the alleged 
'continued piracy' claim.  Would you please

>    He started this round of flamefests by pirating plenty of software,
> *INCLUDING* what everyone got so upset about a week ago.

	And your proof is at?

>  He continues
> to espouse piracy in all forms by his actions.

	In your opinion, but that doesn't match the facts of what Mr. 
Mentzer said.  For example, as I recall, Mr. Mentzer condemning strongly 
the piracy of commercial available software.

	Just a side note, you'd be much more effective if you tried to be 
calm, cool, and reasonable.  Trust me on this one, bitter experience has 
taught me that this is the best way to go.
	You hurt this newsgroup and yourself immensely by the way you 
choose to carry out your actions.

> And he has the gall to
> even try and say "I win; let's just have a truce"?

	No, I don't remember him saying that.  I do remember that he took a 
position about copyrighted, no-longer-obtainable software that was worth 
exploring.
	I'm not saying either side is right, but it would be nice to 
explore the ideas and to come to some sort of consensus about the 
subject.
 
>    Not a chance, slimeball. There'll be a truce when your body leaves
> the battlefield permanently. Not before.

	Please leave the personal attacks at home.  If what you say has any 
value let the ideas and your temperate eloquence carry the discourse for 
you.  Being nasty means most people will simply tune you out without 
taking the time to consider the merit of your words.	

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Edward Franks                          | efranks@msn.com
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