Re: Applesoft Reference Manual -- Blue Book - unlocked

[David Schmidt <david4602@gmail.com>]

On Jul 16, 12:42 pm, James Littlejohn <nargut...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 16, 9:10 am, David Schmidt <david4...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Jul 15, 11:49 pm, "bill.mart...@gmail.com" <bill.mart...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
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> > > [...]  We have permission to post the manual so, take down the
> > > unlocked version ASAP. [...]
>
> > I know I should just stay out of this... but I slept on it, and it
> > still bothers me.  So here goes.  :-/
>
> > Bill, this manual scan is AWESOME.  It looks great, and is a needed
> > piece of history.  Doc. Weyhrich and Brian Wiser have done a great
> > service by scanning it for all to see.  Those Commodore guys don't
> > know how good they've got it with bombjack. (http://www.bombjack.org/commodore/books.htm
> > )  Have you seen the volume of their scans?  Zounds.
>
> > Ok, so to my point.  I am not a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV.  I
> > didn't even stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.  But your
> > statement above doesn't quite make sense to me.  Apple Computer, Inc.
> > (Now Apple, Inc.) owns the copyright and distribution rights to that
> > work.  They just choose not to enforce them.  Unless a Miracle Has
> > Occurred (tm) and The Steve Jobs has granted you permission to post a
> > derived work, I submit that neither you nor any other of us really has
> > "permission" to post the manual.  We have benign disregard from Apple
> > in this case and many others.
>
> > You wrote and own A.P.P.L.E and derived works.  Copyright,
> > distribution rights, everything.  Yours.  No argument there.  But you
> > own sole distribution rights to Apple Computer, Inc.'s work (the Blue
> > Book)?  Is that what you mean to say?
>
> Believe it or not, in this day and time, there are still individuals/
> company's/groups  that are still 'authorized' by Apple to distribute
> Apple II documentation and software.
>
> I do know that Bill is one of few people that can say he is
> 'authorized'.
> Not that I agree totally with that, but that is the way it is.

I know Syndicomm has one of those authorizations.  Lots of user groups
had/have redistribution rights to DOS/ProDOS, too.  I've got no
problem whatsoever with that.  If Bill has rights from Apple to
distribute the blue book - then we all win.  I didn't mean to sound
accusatory.