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Re: Applesoft Reference Manual -- Blue Book - unlocked



On Jul 17, 3:25 am, David Schmidt <david4...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 16, 12:42 pm, James Littlejohn <nargut...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > On Jul 16, 9:10 am, David Schmidt <david4...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Jul 15, 11:49 pm, "bill.mart...@gmail.com" <bill.mart...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
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> > > > [...]  We have permission to post the manual so, take down the
> > > > unlocked version ASAP. [...]
>
> > > I know I should just stay out of this... but I slept on it, and it
> > > still bothers me.  So here goes.  :-/
>
> > > Bill, this manual scan is AWESOME.  It looks great, and is a needed
> > > piece of history.  Doc. Weyhrich and Brian Wiser have done a great
> > > service by scanning it for all to see.  Those Commodore guys don't
> > > know how good they've got it with bombjack. (http://www.bombjack.org/commodore/books.htm
> > > )  Have you seen the volume of their scans?  Zounds.
>
> > > Ok, so to my point.  I am not a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV.  I
> > > didn't even stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.  But your
> > > statement above doesn't quite make sense to me.  Apple Computer, Inc.
> > > (Now Apple, Inc.) owns the copyright and distribution rights to that
> > > work.  They just choose not to enforce them.  Unless a Miracle Has
> > > Occurred (tm) and The Steve Jobs has granted you permission to post a
> > > derived work, I submit that neither you nor any other of us really has
> > > "permission" to post the manual.  We have benign disregard from Apple
> > > in this case and many others.
>
> > > You wrote and own A.P.P.L.E and derived works.  Copyright,
> > > distribution rights, everything.  Yours.  No argument there.  But you
> > > own sole distribution rights to Apple Computer, Inc.'s work (the Blue
> > > Book)?  Is that what you mean to say?
>
> > Believe it or not, in this day and time, there are still individuals/
> > company's/groups  that are still 'authorized' by Apple to distribute
> > Apple II documentation and software.
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> > I do know that Bill is one of few people that can say he is
> > 'authorized'.
> > Not that I agree totally with that, but that is the way it is.
>
> I know Syndicomm has one of those authorizations.  Lots of user groups
> had/have redistribution rights to DOS/ProDOS, too.  I've got no
> problem whatsoever with that.  If Bill has rights from Apple to
> distribute the blue book - then we all win.  I didn't mean to sound
> accusatory.

Not at all....there are only a few of us left and I doubt Apple would
be so generous these days but you never know.  It takes a lot of time
and efforts to get those permissions and thus it is something not for
the feint of heart.  Please do Enjoy the works, and keep the comments
coming.  We do listen and take each comment very personally.