Re: SCSI HD IIGS: Question - How to boot both 8-bit and 16-bit software?

[bird@nwsrs.nw.att.com (J. L. Walters)]

In article <CyMFs9.9F6@presby.edu>, Stephen Buggie <sebugg@presby.edu> wrote:
>sebugg@presby.edu                                            Nov 1 1994



>What I want to do is to be able to boot my 8-bit software (still used
>heavily), _and also boot_ from the hard drive some 16-bit applications
>such as games, etc.

>QUESTIONS:

>Can both ProDos-8 and GS/OS be booted from the same HD partition?
Yes, and am I glad you asked this question since I've been having a
discussion on GEnie on this subject and have not, to me, come to a
conclusion on the rightness/wrongness of what I do and what will follow
here. I'd really appreciate input from others if they feel what I'm
doing is wrong in any way:
1. I renamed ProDOS from my boot partition as: N6ProDOS

2. Copied P8 from my System directory to my boot directory and
   renamed it ProDOS.

3. Have ProSel.System as first system file in my boot directory so
   I then boot directly into ProSel 8

4. ProSel 8 has a menu item to "Boot GS/OS," this launches N6ProDOS
   i.e., the stub that used to be named ProDOS

5. The Boot Control Panel currently says to boot the Finder. When
   and if an updated "The Manager" shows up I'll probably use that

6. I have TransProg installed so I use it to launch all of my 
   "commonly" run applications. One of these is ProSel 16 so I've used
   a launcher (ProSel 8) to launch a Launcher (Finder) which has a
   Launcher as a menu item (Transprog) which also has a launcher as a
   menu item (ProSel 16). (Hello, where do I sign up for
   recursion 101?)

The procedure I've outlined above is in agreement with a February 1994
article in NAUG and as it points out, I cannot press 8 when booting to
enter ProDOS 8 because I have a RamFAST SCSI and it grabs the "8" and
tries to boot that partition which happens to be my data partition and
thus doesn't boot worth a darn ;-)

Jay Krell, and others, seem to feel that what I'm doing is the wrong
way to go about it. They feel that I should boot GS/OS and then select
AppleWorks from the finder &/or Transporg (GREAT program!). I have had
serious problems with this procedure in the past. It seemed to me that
certain NDAs/CDAs didn't get the message that they were no longer
needed when going to 8 bit and kept running and caused me grave
problems in AppleWorks Classic.

Finally, the procedure I've outlined above is not without problems from
time to time. It seems that after some number of boots of ProDOS 8,
enter AppleWorks, boot GS/OS, Restart to ProDOS 8,... GS/OS becomes
somewhat screwed up i.e., won't boot, falls into the monitor, STRANGE
looking menus in the Finder, etc. My guess on this subject is that
AppleWorks is somehow munging something that GS/OS thinks is golden on
boot.


As I said, any and all comments welcome on this subject since I'd like
to get to a point where I can boot ProDOS 8 on power-up instead of
GS/OS, call GS/OS when needed, boot back to ProDOS 8, etc., etc.

>I have a six disk set of backups called "System 6.0.1" but no docs.  Is this
>version better than GS/OS?
It is GS/OS

> Without docs I have done nothing with those disks.
>I also have a "System 6" book published by Quality Computers.  Is System 6
>the best?

Well, 6.0.1 should be better since it fixes problems with 6.0 which is
much better than 5.x...

> Is it hard to install on the hard drive?
No. Just use the installer. See your System 6 book for the procedure.

Kind Regards,

		Joe Walters att!nwsrs!bird NW 31K14 (708) 224-7189
		To know, and not to do, is not yet to know.
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		Joe Walters att!nwsrs!bird NW 31K14 (708) 224-7189
		To know, and not to do, is not yet to know.