Re: UNIX newbie question

[droberts@chaos.bsu.edu (Dave J. Roberts)]

Steve McLeod (smcleod@acs.ucalgary.ca) wrote:
: Well thats fine Joe, but I don't have time to go thru 1001 menues and crap.

	Yes. Menues suck, this is true.

: >Rhetorical question...don't send e-mail to answer...but, how many people
: >are still using ftp when they should be using ncftp instead? I do not think
: >that the term ncftp has _ever_ once come up in c.s.a2. Is it in the FAQ?
: >No. So, lots of Apple II folks are still struggling with ftp.

	I personally like ncftp; and it was awhile before I learned about
it and started using it. To instruct users on what's best to use is wrong.
Rather, we should let them find out for themselves =)

: Well who cares? Its like saying, if your using rn, you should be using tin
: instead! I personally dislike ncftp, so I use ftp instead. Many of use
: slam 5 or more ftps in the background, and unless I'm on a Sparc or Indy
: where I have some screen resources, ncftp will just make a mess on a
: single text screen. I find fsp bad enough!

	Uhh, what? You get no better tranfser rates if you ftp 5 things at
a time or 5 things sequentially. Also, if you wanna do background ftp's,
you should `ncftp ftp://site.com/path/file > /dev/null &`. Real simple,
no output whatsoever except for errors, and people will think you're a
real unix user. FSP, eh? Well, let's not bring up fsp, although I do like
its interface.

: >I guess my point is that just as I am clueless about compiling unix source,
: To start with Joe, your UNIX newbie question shouldn't of been posted to
: c.s.a2 in the first place. If this was any other group, you would have
: gotten your butt flamed off the net! I've seen people get flamed for
: much less.

	Seems to me, that he is going to get his butt flamed off the net,
not even mentioning making fun of him on IRC! =)

: Why? Thats what FAQs are for! Most answers to common questions can be found
: in news.answers. I'm sure there are a ton of others groups for this purpose
: also! Hell, go start up your own alt group then if you can't find one...

	Right. csa2 is not a unix group, it's an apple2 group. However,
people have to have some understand of the internet to come up with
cohernt posts. A brief but limited section in the csa2 faq would be
appropriate. How can you expect someone to read the FAQ for alt.answers
or whatever if they don't know how (don't ask me the name if the newsgroup,
I never read the FAQ =) ?

: So what? I have a full net connection and I've never used Lynx or Mosaic!
: Hell, I don't even post that often!

	Yes. Just because you don't see people doesn't mean they don't
exist. How do you know the number of people using Lynx/Mosiac, Joe? I
personally think Lynx sucks, and WWW isn't worth the time if you're not
on an xterminal with hardwire ethernet, but that's just me =)

Dave
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