Re: Mac to GS fie transfers, arghh!

["John B. Matthews" <nospam@nospam.invalid>]

In article <null-C7DA37.21324827092008@newsgroups.comcast.net>,
 Greg Buchner <null@none.invalid> wrote:

> In article 
> <sbigos-2222EE.10151727092008@70-3-168-216.area5.spcsdns.net>,
>  SteveB <sbigos@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> > In article <null-3F9AE5.08283527092008@newsgroups.comcast.net>,
> >  Greg Buchner <null@none.invalid> wrote:
> > 
> > > In article 
> > > <sbigos-7A5A5B.18181326092008@70-3-168-216.area5.spcsdns.net>,
> > >  SteveB <sbigos@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Thanks, Greg. ProTYPE worked great. I know have working Asimov and 
> > > > GSShrink on my GS. Now if I could get the flaky Appletalk to work each 
> > > > time, I'd be all set. Hopefully a reboot will fix it. I see a CFFA card 
> > > > in my future. Seems like that would be much easier. I did notice that 
> > > > ProTYPE seems to do nothing to .2mg files, although I was able to get 
> > > > those working without it.
> > > 
> > > You're welcome.
> > > 
> > > I've never dealt with .2mg files on a GS, only via emulation on a Mac, 
> > > so I can't help you there.
> > > 
> > > But, what is flaky about your Appletalk connection?
> > > 
> > > Oh, and just a little clarification here. Localtalk is the cabling that 
> > > plugs into your serial ports. Appletalk is the protocol that runs on top 
> > > of it. (And actually can run on Ethernet and some wireless setups.)
> > > 
> > > I ran Localtalk/Appletalk for years between a number of Macs and my GS 
> > > without any problems, so hopefully I'll be able to help you with that.
> > > 
> > > Greg B.
> > 
> > The Localtalk/Appletalk seemed to drop the connection when unused for an 
> > hour or so. I did find that the GS motherboard battery was bad, maybe 
> > that was the cause, although I would think that only comes into play 
> > when the machine is shut down. Also, I'll try switching from PhoneNet to 
> > real Localtalk connectors and see if that helps.
> 
> I've never used PhoneNet, just LocalTalk cabling. I don't know if that 
> applies, but I've never had a 'disconnect'. It was always there when I 
> was connected until I disconnected.
> 
> > How do I enable sharing a GS volume so that the Mac can see it? I can 
> > see the Mac from the GS, just not the other way around.
> 
> Not going to happen. GS/OS doesn't have any built-in file sharing.
> 
> > I'd like to find an old Gatorbox and run an AppleTalk network over 
> > ethernet, connect the old Mac, new Macs, and the GS all together. My 
> > setup now requires me to TCP/IP transfer files from the G5 to the 
> > Classic, then switch the Classic to Localtalk for transfer from the 
> > Classic to the GS. Maybe there is a software solution. I seem to 
> > remember you can install an Apple file share server on old Macs. I could 
> > web browse for GS files with the Classic instead of the G5, but I don't 
> > think I could put up with the speed. Would like to be able to print from 
> > the GS over ethernet also (to a Laserwriter 630)....hmm..the Laserwriter 
> > has both Localtalk and ethernet connections. I wonder if both can be 
> > active?
> 
> I've used both a Shiva Fastpath and Apple's software for connecting 
> Localtalk/Ethernet connections and Apple's software was more 
> transparent. It's just a control panel and I believe I was last running 
> it on my Quadra 650. And I know I used to use a Laserwriter IIg from my 
> GS, but I've never had a real running GS since I got a LW 12/640 so I 
> haven't tried it with that.
> 
> If I had the room to set up my GS again, which I should do, it would be 
> localtalked to the Quadra 650 and then that's connected to my Ethernet 
> network. But Mac OS 8.1 and Mac OS X 10.4 and later don't really like to 
> talk to each other that well.

I used LocalTalk Bridge 2.1 under Mac OS 9.1.x to share a LocalTalk 
LaserWriter for some years. Interestingly, the download is still there:

<http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=60290>

I still use the printer through an AsanteTalk.

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John B. Matthews
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