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Re: Apple II version of Activision's H.E.R.O.



Mike OMalley <m.SPAMNOomalleyNOSPAM@cqu.edu.auspammenot> wrote:
>> I don't understand why a .DSK or .NIB is better here.  .NIB files can't
>> be converted back for use on a real Apple II,
> 
> Oh yes they can.  I have transferred dozens of NIB back to Apple 2 disks.
> All you do is use SST in reverse.  See the instructions on Asimov in the
> file "ADT_SST_Copy_][+_DDD_BCopy_Locksmith_Autonum_Renum__Mooses_Disk.txt"

Interesting.  Other people have tried it and failed.  For example:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.sys.apple2/browse_thread/thread/7eae382fab27b201/2223997a5f81579e?q=sst+apple+real&rnum=1#2223997a5f81579e

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.sys.apple2/browse_thread/thread/78ecda5fe5b3350d/ee2a287ef3b7ad9b?q=sst+apple+real&rnum=2#ee2a287ef3b7ad9b

And especially:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.sys.apple2/browse_thread/thread/860e7ba7ebfeb74b/da36a07d055da54c?q=sst+apple+real&rnum=7#da36a07d055da54c

+Antony,
+
+What you are trying to do, in theory, should work.  However in
+practice, it doesn't.  May years ago I spoke to Bob Colbert (aka
+Saltine) who wrote the program about this.  He believes the problem is
+a bug in SST that prevents it from properly creating the two dsk files
+from the original .nib when done from an emulator.  He had no
+resolution for this problem.
+
+Bottom line: Right now there is no software for the Apple II that
+allows creating a physical disk from a .nib file.

I'm glad to hear you got it to work.


> What ?  I respect your work Andy, but this simply isn't true at all.
> 
> ShrinkIt can be run / used / applied to DOS disks and DOS files.  ShrinkIt
> for DOS was rare, but it did exist.  The ProDOS version was much more
> common.  Even Asimov contains a DOS disk that has ShrinkIt on it.

That would be news to me, which makes it pretty unlikely all things
considered.  ShrinkIt was written for ProDOS, and later for GS/OS.
There was no DOS version, it cannot read DOS files, except possibly
through the DOS 3.3 FST under GS/OS.

If you can find the counter-example on asimov, please post or mail a
link to it.  I'd love to know who wrote it.

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