Re: Why no Appletalk on IIc+?

[Lockar <lockar@locutus.DOTorg>]

    Okay, I think I am getting my facts mixed up.  I talked to a person
at Apple (Matt D.) a very long time ago about this.  We had a very long
converstation about this.  He told me there was plan of the //c+ having
the AppleTalk in it but it was scraped at the last mintue for what ever
reason (I can't remember what he told me now.)  Correct me if I am
wrong, but I think he told me there is some support for Appletalk in
ROM but there is no Firmware/hardware in the machine.

   Which I think what a lose, like I told Matt.  I think it would have
been a good idea to put the AppleTalk into the Apple //c+, because then
the Apple //c+ could have been a really good deal for those that didn't
need slots. (My second computer was an Apple //c+ btw.)

     -Locutus


In article <4230c75f$1@news.uow.edu.au>, David Wilson
<david@uow.edu.au> wrote:

> email@DELETE_THIS.luddite.no-ip.com (Simon Williams) writes:
> >Greg Andrzejewski <pressyourluck85@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Don't judge too quickly, this is not another "why can't I use appletalk
> >> with
> >> my IIc?" post. I was just reading the thread about booting a IIe from a G3
> >> and wondered why Apple didn't think to add Appletalk support in the IIc+?
> >> Does anyone have a reason? Apathy?
> >> 
> >> -Greg 
> 
> >I'm pretty sure it was planned and I think there's even a bit of
> >AppleTalk code in ROM, but I don't recall why it was abandoned... 
> 
> There was some AppleTalk support code in the UniDisk 3.5 ROM version of the
> IIc but it was dropped in favour of the RAMdisk in later versions. Unlike
> the IIgs, the slots in the IIc have fixed functions:
> 
> Slot #    Original UniDisk 3.5 Memory Exp and IIc+
> ------    -------- ----------- -------------------
> 1      Printer     Printer     Printer
> 2      Modem    Modem    Modem
> 3      80 col      80 col      80 col
> 4      Mouse    Mouse    RAMDisk
> 5      ?     SmartPort   SmartPort
> 6      5.25 FDD 5.25 FDD 5.25 FDD
> 7      ext FDD boot   AppleTalk stub Mouse
> 
> As you can see there is no available slot to put AppleTalk into on a IIc+.
> 
> Furthermore, to do AppleTalk properly (like the IIgs) would have required
> the replacement of the serial chip (6551) with the Zilog SCC making the IIc+
> less compatible with the IIc (the original intention was to have an external
> converter box).